What's Hurney thinking about? A few general answers

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Again you don't have to be a scout as a GM or a cap specialist, or former football player or anything but a manager of people and personnel. He isn't doing this in a vacuum. Hire good people and let them do their job. What you value in a GM doesn't.make it a job requirement. Gettleman had that background but he missed on lots of folks.

So someone can be successful at a job despite never having experience at any of the important job duties?

Cool. I'm gonna go apply to be CEO of Microsoft.

[Mr. Scot]

31 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Your lips keep proclaiming them as the superior choice but haven't really provided anything concrete but lip service.  You know why?  Because a lot of this stuff is subjective as hell.  

Look,  I'm not gonna cry either way.  I'm generally a proponent of starting fresh and anew when things are clearly not working, but I can't say that yet.  

Just like you were premature in your assessment of Ron Rivera being a bad coach,  you are jumping the gun a little now. 

You can compare their resumes to Marty Hurney's track record and say "there's no evidence they're more qualified"?

Oy...

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

I agree with you on how the KB thing was worded. It was awkward if not PC. That being said, what he should have said was that KB was not in our future plans and didn't mesh well with the vision that we have for our receiving corps.  He could have even mentioned "addition by subtraction," but that wouldn't  have been the most gracious way to talk about it. 

Again,  I'm not wasting time thinking about Butker.  Kickers come and go. I don't care about paying as long as it isn't overpaying. 

Hurney will have no choice but to overpay if he wants to keep Gano.  That's why they drafted Gano's replacement, that Hurney let walk out the door.

The KB trade should have happened prior to the season if anything thing they said was remotely true, but of course it's not.  It was a bad move and no amount of spin will take the smell off of it.  It sure helped them win the division and go deep into the playoffs didn't it?

[Jon Snow]

So the argument for keeping Hurney is that he doesn't haven't to be good at scouting because someone else can do that?  He doesn't have to be good at managing the cap because some else can do that?   Just what the hell do you need Hurney for?

[top dawg]

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Hurney will have no choice but to overpay if he wants to keep Gano.  That's why they drafted Gano's replacement, that Hurney let walk out the door.

The KB trade should have happened prior to the season if anything thing they said was remotely true, but of course it's not.  It was a bad move and no amount of spin will take the smell off of it.  It sure helped them win the division and go deep into the playoffs didn't it?

The injuries to Samuel and Byrd likely spoiled any chance of us going deeper into the playoffs.  Come on,  man.

And we still gave the sumbitches a run for their money. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, top dawg said:

The injuries to Samuel and Byrd likely spoiled any chance of us going deeper into the playoffs.  Come on,  man.

And we still gave the sumbitches a run for their money. 

So not planning for injuries is a plus now?

[top dawg]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

So not planning for injuries is a plus now?

You should ask Gettleman.  

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, top dawg said:

You should ask Gettleman.  

Gettlemen didn't trade KB so I'm not sure how you pin that on him?  Dave also drafted the best wr we've had since the Seifert era...and despite all the whining around here did address needs adequately enough to have the best winning record since inception under his watch.

Keep polishing that turd boys.

[The Natural]

6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Hurney will have no choice but to overpay if he wants to keep Gano.  That's why they drafted Gano's replacement, that Hurney let walk out the door.

The KB trade should have happened prior to the season if anything thing they said was remotely true, but of course it's not.  It was a bad move and no amount of spin will take the smell off of it.  It sure helped them win the division and go deep into the playoffs didn't it?

He played very well for us this season, he deserves to be paid. I think you guys have forgot what it was like post- Kasay until we landed Gano. Also I have no idea how people can think the Benjamin trade was bad.... The improvement in our offense after his departure was pretty significant. It was better to get something now rather than wait and get nothing when we didn't sign him to a new contract.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, The Natural said:

He played very well for us this season, he deserves to be paid. I think you guys have forgot what it was like post- Kasay until we landed Gano. Also I have no idea how people can think the Benjamin trade was bad.... The improvement in our offense after his departure was pretty significant. It was better to get something now rather than wait and get nothing when we didn't sign him to a new contract.

Yeah that logic paid off in the long run.

 

 

 

Keep polishing that turd.

[Car123]

 

1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Gettlemen didn't trade KB so I'm not sure how you pin that on him?  Dave also drafted the best wr we've had since the Seifert era...and despite all the whining around here did address needs adequately enough to have the best winning record since inception under his watch.

Keep polishing that turd boys.

Well yeah, wr wasn’t a huge need when Hurney was GM.

[top dawg]

2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Gettlemen didn't trade KB so I'm not sure how you pin that on him?  Dave also drafted the best wr we've had since the Seifert era...and despite all the whining around here did address needs adequately enough to have the best winning record since inception under his watch.

Keep polishing that turd boys.

I will say for a millionth time.  Rivera was the main reason for us winning. He won despite Gettleman,  not because of him.  Gettleman arguably made everyone's job tougher,  and Ron's most of all. 

 One of my gripes with Gettleman  was not signing enough depth in general, so my comment wasn't about KB. 

But this thread isn't about Gettleman, I just couldn't resist a little dig. 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, Car123 said:

 

Well yeah, wr wasn’t a huge need when Hurney was GM.

It was actually.  All he had was an inherited SS.  He never was able to build a complete wr core during his tenure.    

[Jon Snow]

Just now, top dawg said:

I will say for a millionth time.  Rivera was the main reason for us winning. He won despite Gettleman,  not because of him.  Gettleman arguably made everyone's job tougher,  and Ron's most of all. 

 One of my gripes with Gettleman  was not signing enough depth in general, so my comment wasn't about KB. 

But this thread isn't about Gettleman, I just couldn't resist a little dig. 

So he won despite Dave but couldn't do the same with Hurney?  Got it.