Eric Washington Wants to “make sure our scheme fits our personnel"

[iamhubby1]

16 minutes ago, Cartel de Carolina said:

average pass rush will take 3-4 seconds to get through. 

effective blitzing should make it 2 seconds. 

 

 

    Effective being the operative word.

 

     Let's be honest. QBs get rattled at different levels of pressure.  And teams have a plethora of ways to protect their QBs. Quick passes, and max protect being a couple. Point being, teams scheme to protect their QB. 

 

    As a DC, you have to know which QBs you can rattle with just your front four, and which QBs you need to dial up the pressure. If you have to blitz to get pressure, you have to be somewhat creative. Not every blitz get home, but if you do it well, it can still be a weapon.

 

    Best case is Hall, and Obada show up next year. I don't know if that is the plan, or if they plan on bringing someone in. But I do know that Rivera loves Hall, and is excited over Obada. So I guess we shall see. Exciting times ahead I tell ya what.

 

    

    

[t96]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

As disruptive as the blitz can be (the Steelers whole defense is built on that) it is always better if you can get pressure with just four guys.

To be clear, those four guys don't always have to be the defensive line.  You can still drop a lineman back and rush a linbacker or a DB, but generally it is your front four that should be getting most of the pressure.

Washington sounds like that's where he's thinking.

Our 2013 D was perfect at this. As much of an idiot and scumbag as Hardy was, that man was an amazing coverage DE. I still maintain that his 2013 year was by far the best we've had from a DE since we had Pep in his prime. I don't miss Hardy himself but damn if I don't miss having that skill set and elite talent at DE.

[iamhubby1]

49 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

The issue is when Wilks tried turning our zone corners into man corners. Clearly not a fit for them despite what Wilks thinks.

Our secondary was average. Wasn’t the NFL’s worst, wasn’t the NFL’s best. Wilks treated them like we had the Prime Legion of Boom back there.

And as far as blitzing because of our secondary, I’d argue we’ve been far better in coverage when we rush four rather than blitz. Most chunk plays come from a vacated zone or area of the field where offenses exploit because a person that could be protecting it isn’t since that person came down to blitz.

Blitzing stresses the secondary when the pressure doesn’t hit home, which it rarely did. 

 

    IMO, you use the blitz to shorten the routes, by making the QB get the ball out quicker. In theory, even if he completes the pass, the play is not enough for the 1st down. If you get to him, fine. The point is to get the play shortened.

 

    If you are going to blitz, you had better know your opponent. And you had better be able to disguise it enough to confuse even a Brees. He may guess right some of the time, but he won't be right all of the time. You take advantage of his mistakes, and you mitigate your own with solid play, and sure tackling.

 

    Short story long. Nowadays, with the quality of QBs in the league. Rushing four, playing sound football, and throwing in the occasional blitz is about all you can do.

[Cuttinedge]

What a novel idea game planning to make the most of players strengths and also hiding their weaknesses. For years we’ve chosen to try to bash a square peg into a round hole. Finally a coach who has a clue 

[KendrickPanther]

When our coaches talk about this stuff like its not already happening it blows my mind.

I can still remember Josh Norman giving up big cushion on a game losing drive vs the Bears and when asked about it Ron said "I don't know why, Ill have to talk to him"

[Davidson Deac II]

7 hours ago, iamhubby1 said:

 

    I am pretty sure we wound up leading the league in blitz's. And I am also pretty sure most folks probably think that is one stat that may not be in our best interest. Mainly because of the extra stress it puts on your Defense to be perfect. Defense is tough enough to play, without adding to the difficulty by blitzing your butt off.

 

    Now, as you said, we were top shelf in sacks. But I have no data on if they came from our front four, or were the result of all those blitz's. I do believe as the year went by, our front four was getting less pressure. Which could be why we were blitzing more towards the end of the year.

 

    Which is why this off-season is going to be interesting. I know Rivera loves Hall, and is excited about Obada. So I could see us not really adding much at DE, and just going with those two kids. OR, maybe they hedge their bet and add another one? Could tell us what they think about all this. Are we good? Or do we need to add a piece? 

 

   

We had 50 on the year, 40 of them came from the defensive line.   

Regarding end of the year, we didn't get many sacks in our last two games.  But we were playing Ryan and Brees, two of the least sacked qb's in the league.  No one gets many sacks against them due to good oline play and their ability to get the ball out fast.  Our pressure was the same, it was just harder to get sacks.   In the previous three games, we averaged four plus sacks a game.  

[imminent rogaine]

12 hours ago, Saca312 said:

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going to be real interesting next year. Wilks has a defense that would work stupid good with his scheme (geez the things he could do with Budda Baker is already amazing in it of itself) and Washington gets to unlock Carolina’s true potential.

...and a true cover corner in Peterson, and Mathieu, and a good pass rush and they get Markus Golden back who basically only blitzes or rushes the qb.

I think personel was a major draw for Wilks.

[imminent rogaine]

11 hours ago, pantherj said:

I nearly went insane watching guys like Captain and Luke try to blitz and get nowhere. We have to use what we have properly, or get some new guys.

For real. I don't know if it was just the frequency or if we were somehow telegraphing who and when was coming but a lot of times it felt like whoever was blitzing just ran straight into an extra blocker and was completely negated.

[MHS831]

I have not read the entire thread, so excuse repetition,  But as I know many of you look to me for guidance and insight into the Panthers and other areas of your lives such as your marriages, investments, and predicting bowel movements, I will share some thoughts/hopes I had:

1. I have been saying this for weeks--the secondary was not that bad if we blitz less.  Our defense had slow safeties and zone CBs and we were blitzing LBs and nickels a lot.  We have Brees and Ryan in our conference, and Winston is improving.  When we do not blitz, Bradberry is much better.  Worley's cushion is smaller (his cushion was a giveaway).

2. I think this could mean that we are going to address DE in free agency and/or the draft.  The draft is weak this year at DE, so I expect monies to go into what now appears to be our biggest need---DE.  I also expect a WR in free agency or early draft.

3. We will add a CB and safety or two.

4. To my most interesting point (to me): DT.  Butler is not a true 3 technique, but at 330 lbs, he could be a whale of a NT.  Not as good vs the run as Star, but able to penetrate and take on a double team.  We could have KK with 9 sacks and a NT with 5.  What does Brees hate?  Pressure up the middle.  In the draft, there is a lot of talent at 3 tech. 

Having a NT that is tall and can rush is going to help the DEs tremendously.  So, by adding a DE in free agency and letting Star walk, we add a backup 3 DT, S, and CB in the draft, we are suddenly scary and able to play  D without sending 5 or 6 every down.

4.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, imminent rogaine said:

For real. I don't know if it was just the frequency or if we were somehow telegraphing who and when was coming but a lot of times it felt like whoever was blitzing just ran straight into an extra blocker and was completely negated.

We could probably guess who was blitzing before the play, so they could too.  The RB left in to block (most teams did that vs. us) had a few reads (I am guessing here).  First, he could tell by Worley's cushion (presnap) if we were blitzing from that side.  Then you can watch the FS's first step if you are good--he will usually cheat to the blitz side unless a few conditions don't necessitate it.  If no read is there, it probably mean the other side or LBs.  If the LBs did not blitz at the snap, he would peel to the opposite side of Worley, looking for a CB or S.  Remember, there is a lot of communication before the snap, so they knew where it was likely to come.  I love watching Romo (surprisingly) call games because he would tell  the viewers who was blitzing about 80% of the time.

The bottom line, a blitz creates a weak spot in the D and the risk is that we get to the QB before he finds it.  Rarely is that the case with Brees and Ryan.

[KDawg004]

I keep reading Michael Bennett could become a cap casualty this offseason. I would love to bring him in.

Another name I’ve seen that I would love in Carolina is Robert Quinn. But I don’t see the Rams letting him go. Same for Jerry Hughes.

It would be huge if we could find a starting DE that can rush the passer in FA and have a fully rested Peppers wreak havoc on passing downs.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Bill Voth‏ @PanthersBill 9m9 minutes ago

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Eric Washington, in response to whether Vernon Butler can just replace Star Lotulelei (if he leaves in free agency): “It’s not that simple … Within his own skill set, Vernon is capable of being a difference-making starter. But I'm not looking at Vernon to replace Star.”

[brandon_87]

14 hours ago, Manther said:

I think we blitzed BECAUSE our secondary couldn't cover for very long.  

They can't just come out and say that lol bit some of us feel that way for sure

[mc52beast]

Want to see how to get pressure with just your front 4???

Watch the Eagles on Sunday