we can fix our wr core in freeagency without spending big $$

[DaveThePanther2008]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Good opinion.. But We've tried it the other way already right??

Some ppl just want to try a different approach..

Big money or no big money to minimize the risk of a FA WR it should be a player that has excelled in Turner's offense.   Turner has been around for many years.  I am certain we can find one or two that have played under him.  Know  what he demands and plays well.  

You have more of a risk just signing a WR and expect him to produce like he did in a different system.  Vincent and Maclin were signed but didn't light it up in their new homes. 

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Big money or no big money to minimize the risk of a FA WR it should be a player that has excelled in Turner's offense.   Turner has been around for many years.  I am certain we can find one or two that have played under him.  Know  what he demands and plays well.  

You have more of a risk just signing a WR and expect him to produce like he did in a different system.  Vincent and Maclin were signed but didn't light it up in their new homes. 

Again Solid point... In a perfect world we can get a Norv system savvy Wr.. But Top Dawg said a good thing about really good cordinator can't fit their system around the players they have.. If you have to get a Wallace or Moncerif you can build your system where they flourish..

Also you can't tell me that a Josh Gordon  type WR won't  produce in any system you put him in...

All I'm saying is.. If that guy is out there I would like to try and get him before the going the bargain shopping and gambling thing We've done for years now . 

[DaveThePanther2008]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

Again Solid point... In a perfect world we can get a Norv system savvy Wr.. But Top Dawg said a good thing about really good cordinator can't fit their system around the players they have.. If you have to get a Wallace or Moncerif you can build your system where they flourish..

Also you can't tell me that a Josh Gordon  type WR won't  produce in any system you put him in...

All I'm saying is.. If that guy is out there I would like to try and get him before the going the bargain shopping and gambling thing We've done for years now . 

I have a very strong feeling you will be disappointed.  I will be shocked if we dive into the Free Agent pool on day one.   I expect we will wait until the 2nd week when all the big money contracts are done and more reasonalble contracts can be made.  

[Swaggasaurus]

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Again Solid point... In a perfect world we can get a Norv system savvy Wr.. But Top Dawg said a good thing about really good cordinator can't fit their system around the players they have.. If you have to get a Wallace or Moncerif you can build your system where they flourish..

Also you can't tell me that a Josh Gordon  type WR won't  produce in any system you put him in...

All I'm saying is.. If that guy is out there I would like to try and get him before the going the bargain shopping and gambling thing We've done for years now . 

Far fetched for that guy to be there in this draft. I think the kid from SMU could be an Alshon type, but it’s too much like Funchess. Ridley of course is a baller. Everyone else just screams mediocre in this draft. So I think you look elsewhere in the draft, like Safety and OL which have atrocious FA markets and have for 5 years now. If no Ridley and try to go with Moncrief or whomever.

[heel31ok]

You could get Janis for $1.5 cut Shepherd and have upgrade and save $500,000...draft a Kirk or say Washington or Miller or a combo of the three...boom instant offense and have $ to throw at other needs as well...adds speed , youth  ,and matchup problems in one fell swoop...

[WOW!!]

15 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

I have a very strong feeling you will be disappointed.  I will be shocked if we dive into the Free Agent pool on day one.   I expect we will wait until the 2nd week when all the big money contracts are done and more reasonalble contracts can be made.  

Hopefully I won't be and this team will go a different path and stop surrounding Cam with bargain bin hopes and prays...

[WOW!!]

Let put this on paper ...

If we can't get a proven number 1 target WR with a history of production in FA. (After at least trying)..

If we have to gamble than lets gamble on a 

1. A player around the ages of 24 - 27..

2.  Has proven with "multiple years" of production that he is at least a 35 to 50 rec. 500 to 800 yard 4 TD a year guy.. Or as close as you can get to these numbers.. Who in a different system with a mvp caliber QB might prove to be more than that...

3. Or Wallace.. Who day one can for sure replace Ginn .

This in my opinion are smart moves and good gambles.. Something we haven't done..

[Cpt slay a ho]

WE already have two have ? At wr in byrd and Samuel, why add another guy to the mix? We’ve tried the cheap way, the low risk high reward only worked with ginn just gotta aim higher than Pryor.

[Toomers]

6 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Let put this on paper ...

If we can't get a proven number 1 target WR with a history of production in FA. (After at least trying)..

If we have to gamble than lets gamble on a 

1. A player around the ages of 24 - 27..

2.  Has proven with "multiple years" of production that he is at least a 35 to 50 rec. 500 to 800 yard 4 TD a year guy.. Or as close as you can get to these numbers.. Who in a different system with a mvp caliber QB might prove to be more than that...

3. Or Wallace.. Who day one can for sure replace Ginn .

This in my opinion are smart moves and good gambles.. Something we haven't done..

So, maybe Paul Richardson at 4/24M. Younger Ginn with better hands and will go up and get the ball in a 50/50 situation. 

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, Toomers said:

So, maybe Paul Richardson at 4/24M. Younger Ginn with better hands and will go up and get the ball in a 50/50 situation. 

Yes take a weapon from Russell .. Only problem is he has been hurt a lot and doesn't have multiple years of production..

[Toomers]

15 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Yes take a weapon from Russell .. Only problem is he has been hurt a lot and doesn't have multiple years of production..

  Yea. But I’m not paying any of these FAs the money they will want. And probably get. Richardson seems the best fit for our immediate needs, and gives us the flexibility to draft any type of WR in the draft. Not being locked into a deep threat. Funchess is a FA after this year. 

  I really would rather trade for TY Hilton. But I doubt the Colts would trade him now.

[Chief Keek]

I wouldn't mind if they took a shot with Brice Butler. He's shown flashes in Dallas whenever he got the chance but they wanted to keep force feeding Dez Bryant.

[Toomers]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

$6M a year? That's very rich for someone with 1 actual year of decent, not great, production. I think he could be someone to take a chance on, but if we are throwing around that kind of money on one 700 yard season, I'd rather secure my OL (Norwell) and take a WR with more potential round 1.

 You’re not going to get a WR with multiple years of production for less than 10M/yr. Sammy Watkins has been a disappointment and will either get tagged or top 10M/yr. And I suggested a lower cost option with the assumption of signing Norwell. 

 After Robinson and Watkins get tagged, watch what the cost of the rest of the WRs goes to. 6M is not much for a WR who solves your biggest issue. And with the market, it would be lucky to get him that cheap. 

[Trill OG]

15 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

You guys are really aiming low in this thread, it’s either pay the money for at the very least a competent WR or make the trade for one. That’s it, these cheap low risk signings tend to backfire and have throughout cams career besides ginn

Kind of ironic Cam made the Superbowl with Ginn as his #1 WR. If anything we are aiming for the right guys.lol

All Cam need is a deep threat, this #1 WR thing is getting overblown. We simply need a WR who can stretch the field. Wallace/Brown/Pryor can do that for cheap.

 

Why spend big money on a WR like Landry who doesn't stretch the field?