So, we really just gonna ignore the fact MJ said we're not trading Kemba for anything less than an All-Star?

[JakeDel5674]

Charlotte Hornets owner Michael Jordan will listen to offers for point guard Kemba Walker. If the proposed deal does not include an All-Star player in return, however, expect him to hang up the phone.

In an interview with Rick Bonnell of The Charlotte Observer, Jordan admits that he "would listen to opportunities" to trade the one-time All-Star, but added that any deal would need to net a player with equal credentials:

“We bred him, we chose him, we groomed him to be a good player for us,” Jordan said of Walker, who the Hornets drafted ninth overall in 2011, to a great extent because Jordan saw traits in Walker that reminded him of his own playing career.

“It’s not like we are shopping him. We would not just give him up. I love Kemba Walker. I would not trade him for anything but an All-Star player.”

“I certainly haven’t given up on our best player. He’s done a hell of a job of turning himself into an All-Star.”

Walker has played his entire six-year career with the Hornets, dating back to when they were formerly known as the Charlotte Bobcats. He had steadily improved multiple aspects of his game until this season. Injuries have derailed the progress of several teammates, forcing Walker to face constant defensive attention that has in turn diminished his production and efficiency. Walker is currently averaging 21.7 points, 5.8 assists and 1.2 steals per contest.

http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/23/michael-jordan-would-not-trade-kemba-walker-anything-all-star-player#/

[peteywheatstraw]

Good to hear from MJ himself.  I'm sure he had to see some of the backlash from fans and signs in the stands also.  Being real, Kemba is the only one holding this team, and organization together, and that's just by a hair.  Without him those 11,000 season tickets they say are sold would mostly go bye bye imho.  Now if some great deal comes around with an all-star type, and draft picks you have to listen.

[Shocker]

I agree we need to hear from Jordan much more and I don't think they will trade Kemba.  The return won't be enough so just don't see it happening.

[djp14]

Sounds like damage control.

The problem is that we probably won't be able to move any of these bad contracts unless we attach Kemba to the deal. Whether Kemba stays or goes, we're pretty much screwed for the near future.

 

[bLACKpANTHER]

The contracts that are assets are as follows:
Kemba - $12mil, 2 yrs
Lamb - $7mil, 2 yrs
Frank - $2.8mil, 2 yrs
Expirings - (MCW, JOB, Graham)
Rookies - (Monk, Bacon)

The contracts that are of liabilities are as follows:
Dwight - $23.5mil, 2 yrs - actually NOT too bad and the fact it will be an expiring next year is a +
Batum - $22.5mil, 4 yrs - ouch!
Marvin - $13mil, 3 yrs - knocking the 3pt down at .400%.. if this was our only bad contract, we'd be alright..
MKG - $13mil, 3 yrs - defense/hustle doesn't out-weight the money.. 
Zeller - $12.5mil, 4 yrs - this is starting to look like a nightmare..

if we could get rid of Batum's and Zeller's contracts = Dwight, Marvin and MKG aren't abysmal, imo..

Batum/Lamb = ???
Zeller/Bacon = ???

[My Goodness My Guinness]

26 minutes ago, bLACKpANTHER said:

The contracts that are assets are as follows:
Kemba - $12mil, 2 yrs
Lamb - $7mil, 2 yrs
Frank - $2.8mil, 2 yrs
Expirings - (MCW, JOB, Graham)
Rookies - (Monk, Bacon)

The contracts that are of liabilities are as follows:
Dwight - $23.5mil, 2 yrs - actually NOT too bad and the fact it will be an expiring next year is a +
Batum - $22.5mil, 4 yrs - ouch!
Marvin - $13mil, 3 yrs - knocking the 3pt down at .400%.. if this was our only bad contract, we'd be alright..
MKG - $13mil, 3 yrs - defense/hustle doesn't out-weight the money.. 
Zeller - $12.5mil, 4 yrs - this is starting to look like a nightmare..

if we could get rid of Batum's and Zeller's contracts = Dwight, Marvin and MKG aren't abysmal, imo..

Batum/Lamb = ???
Zeller/Bacon = ???

OMG I forgot about that Zeller contract...

[djp14]

If you told me a few years back that the Hornets would be in trouble for overspending, I would've laughed. Yet here we are.

 

[MillionDollarCam]

The Hornets fuged up the cap hard by not addressing their roster concerns UNTIL the cap jump.

This happened when a lot of our roster players became free agents last year during the cap jump. The only issue is that salary increases for players did not reflect the percentage that the cap jumped, it caused teams to have to overspend to keep players that they liked. The Hornets had to pay to keep MKG, Marvin, Cody, and Batum to the tune of a combined $60 million.

Poor roster management fuged the Hornets for the foreseeable future. 

[Eazy-E]

Yes we have some bad contracts but the Batum contract is the only truly awful one. We gave Max money to a guy who's never averaged more than 15ppg when the biggest need on the team was another 20 ppg player to pair with Kemba.

[peteywheatstraw]

1 hour ago, Eazy-E said:

Yes we have some bad contracts but the Batum contract is the only truly awful one. We gave Max money to a guy who's never averaged more than 15ppg when the biggest need on the team was another 20 ppg player to pair with Kemba.

Yep, should've let Batum walk.  Jeremy Lamb has outplayed him by a long shot, and Malik and Bacon could be getting more minutes if he was gone.  Terrible decision that stunted the growth of the team.

[carpanfan96]

12 hours ago, peteywheatstraw said:

Yep, should've let Batum walk.  Jeremy Lamb has outplayed him by a long shot, and Malik and Bacon could be getting more minutes if he was gone.  Terrible decision that stunted the growth of the team.

It didn't stunt the growth of the team, it literally killed the team and any chance it had of competing. The only chance the team has now is getting rid of his contract but they can't do that with out getting rid of a desirable player to dump it. Which is really crappy but that's the situation they are in now. 

[peteywheatstraw]

2 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

It didn't stunt the growth of the team, it literally killed the team and any chance it had of competing. The only chance the team has now is getting rid of his contract but they can't do that with out getting rid of a desirable player to dump it. Which is really crappy but that's the situation they are in now. 

Hmmm...So what you're basically saying is it stunted the growth of the team.  Cool

[carpanfan96]

24 minutes ago, peteywheatstraw said:

Hmmm...So what you're basically saying is it stunted the growth of the team.  Cool

No what I'm saying is it killed the team and needs to be blown up again and all of it relates back to the Batum deal. Batum needs to go and the only two ways to accomplish that is to trade Kemba or wait out his contract.  Trading Kemba will kill this team and any potential it had for at least 5-6 years, team can't afford to have low attendance for the next 5-6 years. Waiting means no playoffs and a bad team with little potential for growth for the next 2-3 years at least. Then at that point Kemba will be a max player and the team will be in Cap hell again paying 40+ million for Kemba and Batum which is bad.   So I'm literally saying it killed the Hornets organization as you know it, not stunted the growth of this particular roster. 

 

It's that bad, he's that unreadable at this point. 

[peteywheatstraw]

17 minutes ago, carpanfan96 said:

No what I'm saying is it killed the team and needs to be blown up again and all of it relates back to the Batum deal. Batum needs to go and the only two ways to accomplish that is to trade Kemba or wait out his contract.  Trading Kemba will kill this team and any potential it had for at least 5-6 years, team can't afford to have low attendance for the next 5-6 years. Waiting means no playoffs and a bad team with little potential for growth for the next 2-3 years at least. Then at that point Kemba will be a max player and the team will be in Cap hell again paying 40+ million for Kemba and Batum which is bad.   So I'm literally saying it killed the Hornets organization as you know it, not stunted the growth of this particular roster. 

 

It's that bad, he's that unreadable at this point. 

I think we're on the same wave length, but yours is a little more gloomy.  I was more talking about giving the young guys more run if we hadn't retained Batum.  I do feel like we are stuck in the absolute worst possible place as far as being just barely a lottery team, or possibly sneaking into like an 8th seed.  Maybe Cho will pull something out of his arse.  He was able to get a trade for Plumlee, but we did take on another big contract.  This will probably be our team for a couple years for better or worse. Most likely worse.   Lol