Panthers OL coach leaving with Wilks

[TheRed]

Just now, Udogg said:

Our Oline play sucks.. so meh. 

Well that tends to happen when your line is anchored by a human turnstile.

[hepcat]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The head coach is usually the one who decides on assistants, but Ron has enough respect for Norv that if Norv wanted somebody, Ron would probably listen.

So here's hoping Norv wants Russ Grimm.

First thought I had was Russ Grimm. That'd be awesome if the Panthers hired him.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, beastson said:

Has Norv even signed here yet? Wtf

Ron is a long time is going to have to work and find the best out there, not just moving people up and down. I would think Norv would have a big say so in who takes this position, it is his offense.

Yes, Norv is official.

Scott isn't...yet.

[jamos14]

2 minutes ago, Udogg said:

Our Oline play sucks.. so meh. 

Your basing this on the LT only.  Turner and Norwell both became All-Pro.  Daryl Williams is at least a solid RT.  Ryan has been amazing for years.  Larsen was a solid starter for many games as an UDFA.  

[JakeDel5674]

5 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Why bring in an unknown when we can just promote some random assistant, or even the team ball boy?

#Riveraknowshisshit

[Jon Snow]

59 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He was made the OL coach when they gave Matsko the title of Run Game Coordinator.

Realistically speaking, a run game coordinator is just an offensive line coach with a different title.

Which begs the question of why wasn't our run game any better?  It has sucked for a few years now and doesn't look to improve anytime soon.

[Udogg]

30 minutes ago, jamos14 said:

Your basing this on the LT only.  Turner and Norwell both became All-Pro.  Daryl Williams is at least a solid RT.  Ryan has been amazing for years.  Larsen was a solid starter for many games as an UDFA.  

Our running game has been bad for years.  This has been covered up by Cam's numbers.  Take Cam out of the equation and I don't see what's so "good" about our Oline.  Someone getting grades as All-Pro is gravy.   I just don't see what's so good about our Oline play.  

I see glimpses yes, but nothing consistent.   It may be all Shula's fault, but I haven't seen anything about the Oline that has stood out, or made me feel like coaching can't be changed. 

[Ricky Spanish]

1 minute ago, Udogg said:

Our running game has been bad for years.  This has been covered up by Cam's numbers.  Take Cam out of the equation and I don't see what's so "good" about our Oline.  Someone getting grades as All-Pro is gravy.   I just don't see what's so good about our Oline play.  

I see glimpses yes, but nothing consistent.   It may be all Shula's fault, but I haven't seen anything about the Oline that has stood out, or made me feel like coaching can't be changed. 

Run game sucked the first 8 games of the year. After that we were gravy.

I really think it was Shula's Doofy play calling.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Run game sucked the first 8 games of the year. After that we were gravy.

I really think it was Shula's Doofy play calling.

No one had any reason to respect our pass game because they could predict our routes.

They could sell out to stop the run without having to worry.

[Byrdman4real]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

No one had any reason to respect our pass game because they could predict our routes.

They could sell out to stop the run without having to worry.

This^

[Daddy_Uncle]

Let Jordan Gross coach the Oline 

[Anybodyhome]

So, your QB is the team's leading rusher for the season. (Strike 1)

Your starting RB is 30 when he gets a 2-year, $8M contract in 2017. In 2018, he'll be 31 six months before the season starts and will get a base of $1.9M, a $1M roster bonus due in March and another $850k in incentive bonuses through the season. (Strike 2)

You have no one waiting in the wings who has shown they can step up to be a starting RB in the NFL. (Strike 3).

Yes, your running game sucks.

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

Let Jordan Gross coach the Oline 

Gross doesn't wanna be a coach and I don't think he lives here anymore.

I'd love Russ Grimm, but I doubt that happens.

[tiger7_88]

1 hour ago, TheRed said:

Ron standing around with his hands in his pockets while other teams are making moves.

I mean, assistant coaches have survival and preservation instincts too.

They know what Ron is from working with him (a good man, a mediocre head coach), they see an is-he-or-isn't-he GM situation, they see nothing but question marks surrounding any issue of ownership... as an assistant, it would look to me like a good time to make a move as well.