Senior Bowl's coming up, let's talk about D.J. Chark

[Toomers]

10 minutes ago, Rags said:

You just described Demaryius Thomas coming out bruh

Now I'm not saying he's the next DT but they're eerily similar.

I get your concern, there's plenty of combine warriors and mesurable guys, and he body catches a ton. But there's a lot to like about him. He's got a lot of stuff you can't teach at WR, size, speed, great tracking. Yeah he'd have to learn a lot more but the upside is there.

I'd still want a vet. Say we get Chark I'd honestly love Landry. Would you complain about a WR core of Funch-Chark-Landry-Samuel-Byrd?

 

  Why is Landry on that list? Haven’t we moved past completely unrealistic options. And that is not a shot at Landry so please, no one go off telling me how good he is. It’s about cost and fit.

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, Rags said:

That's on me. I think I got DT and Stephen Hill mixed up since they're both from GT and both Rose from strong combines

No problem.. Other than Megatron being a freak .. A lot of Gtech WR were built the same way. 

This guy might turn out to be good.. He just has A lot of red flags "to me"..

[top dawg]

5 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No problem.. Other than Megatron being a freak .. A lot of Gtech WR were built the same way. 

This guy might turn out to be good.. He just has A lot of red flags "to me"..

But enough upside to justify a 3rd,  just like Bryant. 

[Rags]

9 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

No problem.. Other than Megatron being a freak .. A lot of Gtech WR were built the same way. 

This guy might turn out to be good.. He just has A lot of red flags "to me"..

I get it. I really do. There's a lot of combine numbers and tbh I wasn't expecting Chark's 40 time to be that good. However I really think he's slightly more polished than a Kevin White or Breeshad Perriman who were really just big fast guys. And I think he has kind of a Keenan Allen situation going on because LSU has some...questionable QB play. Plus they had Guice so.

But I'm honestly just a guy watching yt videos and that's my opinion. I think he'd help the team and he has the potential to be good, but I'm not blind to the red flags either.

[WOW!!]

3 minutes ago, top dawg said:

But enough upside to justify a 3rd,  just like Bryant. 

Again your opinion.. I don't see it.. 

3rd round sounds like a really big gamble based off underwater Olympics and s simulated game. 

[steven8989]

46 minutes ago, Rags said:

You just described Demaryius Thomas coming out bruh

Now I'm not saying he's the next DT but they're eerily similar.

I get your concern, there's plenty of combine warriors and mesurable guys, and he body catches a ton. But there's a lot to like about him. He's got a lot of stuff you can't teach at WR, size, speed, great tracking. Yeah he'd have to learn a lot more but the upside is there.

I'd still want a vet. Say we get Chark I'd honestly love Landry. Would you complain about a WR core of Funch-Chark-Landry-Samuel-Byrd?

 

Why do y'all keep saying Landry we are not getting him lmao!!!!!

[Panthers8969]

6’4 4.34 40? Yeah this guy just shot his stock up

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Panthers8969 said:

6’4 4.34 40? Yeah this guy just shot his stock up

So did this guy..

Just saying..

[top dawg]

23 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

So did this guy..

Just saying..your 

No real relevance whatsoever. 

[WOW!!]

5 minutes ago, top dawg said:

No real relevance whatsoever. 

What about this guy... Does he ring a bell..

[top dawg]

6 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

What about this guy... Does he ring a bell..

Comps are irrelevant in general.  Just something pretty for the public.  

[WOW!!]

11 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Comps are irrelevant in general.  Just something pretty for the public.  

Come on Dawg.. You are better than this.. Just admit the 40' and the size got you excited .. You may have been eyeing him since the senior bowl but the measurement and speed got you looking over and excusing.. Some clearly visible red flags.. You know the rule.. 

The combine and pro day only confirms what you see on tape ... Not the other way around...

[WOW!!]

If you're looking at Wr's after Ridley .. So far DJ Moore, and Krik look natural when catching balls and running routes...

[top dawg]

43 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Come on Dawg.. You are better than this.. Just admit the 40' and the size got you excited .. You may have been eyeing him since the senior bowl but the measurement and speed got you looking over and excusing.. Some clearly visible red flags.. You know the rule.. 

The combine and pro day only confirms what you see on tape ... Not the other way around...

I wanted us to take Martavis Bryant also,  but Pittsburgh did.  Someone will be smart enough to take a chance on Chark.  It may as well be us.  Like you said,  I was looking at him actually since before the Senior Bowl as is evidenced by this thread which put him on my radar.  He has done nothing since then except shine, which is exactly what he's supposed to do.  And that's different,  regardless how you want to make light of it.  You act like he has bad tape,  but the fact is is that he doesn't. If he makes good impressions during workouts,  then that will solidify my thoughts that he is an excellent prospect at a position of great need. Sure,  size and speed are nice,  but there are other intangibles,  the main thing for me is whether I believe he has the it factor or not.  He is headed that way, and if he continues to shine during his pro day and individual team workouts,  there would be little basis not  to give him serious consideration on day two. I'm certainly not going to be stupid and say that he's no good based upon Stephen Hill or anyone else you can think of.  That's not a smart way to evaluate.  It's simply not. You know this.  

Why would anyone in his right mind preclude a guy from consideration who is not only a high character,  coachable kid,  who is doing exactly what he's supposed to do when given the opportunity? It makes no sense.

I understand red flags,  but like I said, that's what all this poo is for.