Soooo... which RB will Hurney be selecting in round 1?

[TheRed]

If you're still crowing about Eric Shelton, you've got entirely too much time on your hands. Geesh.

[bandu]

 

3 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

We can say that they both made mistakes.. My problem is these hypocrites and straight out liars. Whog act like they were so against a move before.. Or convince themselves that Gman didn't step into a loaded situation...

Gman is the same idiot that threw bank at the Kalils.....now 

[OneBadCat]

I wouldn’t be surprised in a change of philosophy with JR out. Even in Hurney.

Has anyone else noticed that the Panthers offense has had the same problems despite personnel for the last decade? With Delhomme and Co we had an offense that was entirely too dependent on mistake free/high risk/low reward/3rd and long/let so and so make a play BS.

The same thing is happening with Cam and friends. Norv Turner is the first OC we’ve had who’s his own man and made his own way. Excited to see if we can become a more aggressive offense.

If Hurney is usually money in the 1st round. If he overspends FA. Then so be it. If gets Cam weapons I don’t care. No point in being frugal if you’re franchise QB doesn’t have help and is getting clobbered.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, OneBadCat said:

I wouldn’t be surprised in a change of philosophy with JR out. Even in Hurney.

Has anyone else noticed that the Panthers offense has had the same problems despite personnel for the last decade? With Delhomme and Co we had an offense that was entirely too dependent on mistake free/high risk/low reward/3rd and long/let so and so make a play BS.

The same thing is happening with Cam and friends. Norv Turner is the first OC we’ve had who’s is own man and made his own way. Excited to see if we can become a more aggressive offense.

When it comes to offense, Ron Rivera and John Fox are basically the same guy.

Actually, that could be said about a lot of things.

[Marguide]

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

Hurney tried to trade our 2011 1st pick (the one we used on Cam) to move up to get Clausen.

 

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

He tried to trade the pick that got us Cam. For Jimmy Clausen. Let that sink in.

 

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

HE TRIED TO TRADE THE #1 PICK THAT WE USED TO GET CAM!!!

If he had been successful, Cam would be playing elsewhere. But we'd have Clausen.

This has been refuted many times both by people within and outside the organization.

Why people keep saying this is a mystery, or else they have an agenda.

Yes, he tried to move up to get Clausen but never offered our 1st in exchange.

[PantherCam213]

What did he offer?

[Mr. Scot]

From what I've read, it wasn't that he offered the first round pick. It was more that teams were expecting him to offer the first round pick because he'd already done it two years in a row. 

When he balked at offering it a third time, they said no. Some of them probably believed that if he got desperate enough, he'd give in and call back.

I vaguely remember reading something that he might have been told he couldn't trade it again, but I'd have to find the source to be sure. For now, that's just conjecture.

But heck, even after he left, teams were still calling us asking if we wanted to trade next year's first for this year's second or some such. Gettleman's response was that you'd have to be braindead to think he'd take that deal.

I think it's safe to say that at that point, teams saw us as suckers and thought they could easily get a free pick just by making an offer.

[Doc Holiday]

9 hours ago, Snake said:

No RB it will be a LB round one. 

I think this is the sneaky pick that some won’t see coming, TD retiring soon and Shaq is hot garbage bad. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

35 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

We can say that they both made mistakes.. My problem is these hypocrites and straight out liars. Who act like they were so against a move before.. Or convince themselves that Gman didn't step into a loaded situation...

Now that I agree with you 100% on, I for one will step forward and say I was excited about otah,Jarrett, and clausen...all were highly rated coming out of college, can’t fault him for the picks at the time. The what if game is Garbo, we didn’t trade the first rounder and if clausen didn’t come in and stink up the place we don’t get cam, it’s pointless looking and what if scenarios 

I like hurney more than dg, but it’s like pulling teeth really. 

[cookinbrak]

2 hours ago, Marguide said:

 

 

This has been refuted many times both by people within and outside the organization.

Why people keep saying this is a mystery, or else they have an agenda.

Yes, he tried to move up to get Clausen but never offered our 1st in exchange.

It's also been claimed as fact several times. He said, she said, but ....if you trade your #1 pick 2 years in a row, and people say you tried to do it again, it seems more than plausible. It seems like a trend.

[cookinbrak]

4 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Hey dumbass

1st You're playing the woulda coulda shoulda if this happen game..

IT didn't happen.  YOU CAN'T BLAME SOMEBODY FOR SOMETHING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!!!

2ND if it did happen nobody would have bitch about it at the time... We needed a QB.. Everybody thought Jimmy was a steal. It show how disingenuous a lot of you ppl are.. When you didn't have a fuging word to say but "yay" "great move" when it happened.. Now you want to act like you arm chair GM'S wouldn't have done the same thing.  I laughed every time I see you liars act like you knew Jimmy would be a bust and Jarret would be a bust.. And it was such a horrible move to get them.. When I was here and so the parades that were thrown on this forum when they were drafted.. Try and be real for once...please..

#1 You resort to namecalling a lot. You're probably a tinderbox alt. Redirect Boy.

#2 I can blame someone for trying. The fact that he didn't get a bite doesn't mean it didn't happen.

#3 You're defending ......No, you're not defending Jimmy Clausen, you're defending the fact that Hurney was so enamored with him that he was trying to trade up to get him. Yet, every other team in the NFL said "nah, We good" when they had the chance.

#4 3 winning seasons. Out of 11. 3. When you bitch about "back to back winning seasons", you know where to look.

 

[WOW!!]

1 hour ago, cookinbrak said:

#1 You resort to namecalling a lot. You're probably a tinderbox alt. Redirect Boy.

#2 I can blame someone for trying. The fact that he didn't get a bite doesn't mean it didn't happen.

#3 You're defending ......No, you're not defending Jimmy Clausen, you're defending the fact that Hurney was so enamored with him that he was trying to trade up to get him. Yet, every other team in the NFL said "nah, We good" when they had the chance.

#4 3 winning seasons. Out of 11. 3. When you bitch about "back to back winning seasons", you know where to look.

 

1. I call it like I see it.. dumbass..

2. That's why You're a dumbass.  Not to mention the "fact" that this rumor has been refuted for years and only dumbasses are the ones who keeps spewing it over and over again making themselves look dumber by the second..

3. I agree with the decision at the time.. So instead of being a hypocrite like you and others.. I'd rather be truthful and admit I like the move when it happened and didn't crap on it then .. So why be fake and crap on it now.. When I would have drafted Jimmy to.. if put in the same situation.. It's called integrity..

4. Yes Marty, Gman, Fox, Seifert, Capers, Rivera, and Jerry .. I blame the whole organization not just 1 person..

5. This whole conversation started because I posted a fact... Hurney usually nails his 1st round picks .  So i wasn't worried about him taking a RB.. You got into some convoluted bs that prove i was right .. And you can't deal with the fact You're a dumbass. 

[WOW!!]

2 hours ago, cookinbrak said:

It's also been claimed as fact several times. He said, she said, but ....if you trade your #1 pick 2 years in a row, and people say you tried to do it again, it seems more than plausible. It seems like a trend.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2010/04/reviewing-a-huge-draft-day-for-panthers-the-clausen-chase-the-armanti-factor.html

Where your proof?? Because I have the actual beat writers saying he refuse to give a 1st and that's why the trade up didn't happen.. I'll wait for your news report from the Panthers beat writers 

[Chairman Wow]

The Panthers will not be selecting a running back early. It is not a need.