We can’t go into next year with a Worley/Bradberry CB tandem

[jumpman910]

1 hour ago, luke nukem said:

Im good on Talib, that fuger still needs to ICE UP

So even if he's a drastic improvement, you're going to hold a grudge.

Hell everyone knows he's a dick but getting better SHOULD be the only priority 

[Manther]

20 hours ago, jumpman910 said:

So even if he's a drastic improvement, you're going to hold a grudge.

Hell everyone knows he's a dick but getting better SHOULD be the only priority 

I think there's a distaste for character traits of players that are on other teams.  Many fans hate on Cam Newton, but they would be his biggest fans if he was their quarterback.

[LinvilleGorge]

Hell no to Aqib Talib. That guy is a complete piece of poo. I'm honestly not sure I could continue to support the Panthers I'd they signed that guy.

[BritishPanther]

Curious to see how Corn looks in training camp. A vet FA signing would be ideal to give us depth and experience.

[Manther]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2754388-where-did-each-of-the-losing-nfl-playoff-teams-go-wrong

"Lapses in coverage were an issue for a middling Panthers pass defense that ranked 18th while giving up 229.1 yards through the air per game and 23rd with a passer rating of 92.9 during the regular season. The Carolina defense crumbled if a pass rush that generated 50 sacks couldn't reach the quarterback often enough.

The secondary is an obvious area for the Panthers to address heading into the offseason,"

 

[Manther]

"the Panthers’ pass defense was actually worse in 2017 than in 2016, in large part due to the very low interception percentage. While some of this can be put down to bad luck, the increased use of man coverage certainly did not help the situation. Both Bradberry and Worley look to be starting-caliber corners in the NFL and the Panthers certainly shouldn’t be looking to spend resources on new outside corners, but both are unsuited to man-heavy defenses and the Panthers need to be more intelligent about how they use them in 2018 and beyond."

https://theriotreport.com/evaluating-the-cupboard-2017-cornerbacks/

I found this article on corners.  I'm not sure I agree with it.    We had many breakdowns  in zone.    The author is convinced that zone is the answer to our secondary worries.  I'm  not.  Zone won't fix  dropped interceptions, missed tackles and large cushions.  He says secondary is a low priority in the off season.  I couldn't disagree more.

 

 

[top dawg]

11 minutes ago, Manther said:

"the Panthers’ pass defense was actually worse in 2017 than in 2016, in large part due to the very low interception percentage. While some of this can be put down to bad luck, the increased use of man coverage certainly did not help the situation. Both Bradberry and Worley look to be starting-caliber corners in the NFL and the Panthers certainly shouldn’t be looking to spend resources on new outside corners, but both are unsuited to man-heavy defenses and the Panthers need to be more intelligent about how they use them in 2018 and beyond."

https://theriotreport.com/evaluating-the-cupboard-2017-cornerbacks/

I found this article on corners.  I'm not sure I agree with it.    We had many breakdowns  in zone.    The author is convinced that zone is the answer to our secondary worries.  I'm  not.  Zone won't fix  dropped interceptions, missed tackles and large cushions.  He says secondary is a low priority in the off season.  I couldn't disagree more.

 

 

Couldn't agree more.  Missed tackles, huge,  unnecessary cushions a marked amount of the time, taking bad angles, and some illegal contact (sometimes called and sometimes not,  luckily). I gave credit to Bradberry early on in his career for, perhaps,  being more cerebral in his approach than he really is.  And I certainly don't believe he's as athletic as J-No.  Worley is highly inconsistent,  and you don't know what you're going to get from him from play to play. 

I'm just going to come out and say it: they scare me to death. 

[t96]

On 1/14/2018 at 7:32 PM, Car123 said:

Shouldn’t have rescinded the tag. Keep Norman for a year, draft Bradberry and go all in for a Super Bowl. Missed opportunity.

Adding Josh wouldn't have gotten us a SB win that year.

[Car123]

42 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

Adding Josh wouldn't have gotten us a SB win that year.

What makes you so sure? The defensive backfield was our biggest weakness.

[t96]

1 minute ago, Car123 said:

What makes you so sure? The defensive backfield was our biggest weakness.

OL was weak, receivers were weak, Cam was banged up and not playing well, DL pass rush was an issue, Luke missed half the year with a concussion and wasn’t coming back, secondary would’ve still been weak. I’m not 100% sure obviously but one player like that doesn’t make the difference between 6 and 10 and SB. This year maybe having Josh against Brees would’ve made a difference but not 2016. 

[Bj-Monster23]

To be completely honest our secondary and total defense completely regressed during the season. Maybe the blitz heavy scheme that Wilks implemented may have worn down our defense a lot but who knows at this point. I just saw a lot of lapses in coverage and a ton of missed tackles. The Panthers will need to target  DB and Edge in the upcoming draft unless they can land someone in free agency. If we go back to a heavy zone scheme and not blitz as much Edge rusher should be our top priority. 

[The Lobo]

I don’t understand why Bradberry isn’t used in a press cover 3 more? 

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, Bj-Monster23 said:

To be completely honest our secondary and total defense completely regressed during the season. Maybe the blitz heavy scheme that Wilks implemented may have worn down our defense a lot but who knows at this point. I just saw a lot of lapses in coverage and a ton of missed tackles. The Panthers will need to target  DB and Edge in the upcoming draft unless they can land someone in free agency. If we go back to a heavy zone scheme and not blitz as much Edge rusher should be our top priority. 

It's hard to say what are going to be our biggest defensive priorities at this juncture. We could lose Peppers, Star and Charles Johnson. That would make DL a priority. However, we also know that TD is playing his last year, so do you gamble on having a brand new guy come 2019? Mike Adams is 36 and really our only effective secondary player. Coleman will be 30 and needs to be upgraded. Bradberry, Worley and Munnerlyn were all underwhelming. It is possible that we have a lot more to remedy than it appears on the surface.

My personal opinion is that CB/S need addressing #1 because those are our most obvious weaknesses. It may be as simple as simply grabbing a good veteran CB and drafting a capable S. Easier said than done, I realize. If Peppers and Star return, I think we can delay any major work on the DL, or perhaps grab a developmental edge guy in the 2nd-4th rounds. If either or both leave, I think we have to make it a top 3 round priority if we aren't able to make a FA signing. LB is probably the easiest gamble. We should be able to punt until 2019.

[LinvilleGorge]

 

1 hour ago, top dawg said:

Couldn't agree more.  Missed tackles, huge,  unnecessary cushions a marked amount of the time, taking bad angles, and some illegal contact (sometimes called and sometimes not,  luckily). I gave credit to Bradberry early on in his career for, perhaps,  being more cerebral in his approach than he really is.  And I certainly don't believe he's as athletic as J-No.  Worley is highly inconsistent,  and you don't know what you're going to get from him from play to play. 

I'm just going to come out and say it: they scare me to death. 

He's a lot more athletic than Norman, he just doesn't have anywhere near the instincts, ball skills, and swag. Bradberry bettered Norman in every category except broad jump where he equaled him.