Hurney is "the worst GM in the NFL"

[TN05]

27 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Even that doesn't justify keeping him around.  You guys give him way too much credit for that.  It's much easier to hit on a decent player when you are contently have a high pick.  It doesn't require much knowledge you do that.  Ask yourself why we were in the position to have a top 10 pick on a regular basis to begin with.

The only times Hurney drafted top ten were first first two years (following 1-15 and 7-9 seasons) and his last two years (following 2-14 and 6-10 seasons). We were not regularly drafting in the top 10.

[Smithers]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Good thing we've got a cap expert like Hurney then, right?

Well TBF I never called Hurney a cap expert.  Never even insinuated it.  Not sure how anyone would make that conclusion based on my comment about the salary cap and the lockout.  

I do know this.  Had Hurney not traded KB we would be in really serious cap trouble heading into this offseason.  

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, Smithers said:

Well TBF I never called Hurney a cap expert.  Never even insinuated it.  Not sure how anyone would make that conclusion based on my comment about the salary cap and the lockout.  

I do know this.  Had Hurney not traded KB we would be in really serious cap trouble heading into this offseason.  

KBs option wasn’t guaranteed(except for injury). We could have let him walk.

[rayzor]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because we cut half the team.

Every year prior to that we were constantly having to cut one guy, restructure another, etc.

Heck, some years we didn't even sign more than one or two free agents because there wasn't any room.

and the thing is they thought that was a strength, being right up against the cap. this was definitely an ongoing problem up until right before the lockout when richardson and hurney gambled and cut half the team to make as much room as possible, and then gambled again that the new tv contract would allow the league to increase the cap a lot more more quickly than it actually did.

 

[TN05]

10 minutes ago, Toomers said:

KBs option wasn’t guaranteed(except for injury). We could have let him walk.

And instead we got multiple draft picks, including a third rounder.

[Peppers90 NC]

In no shape way or form has Hurney ever been the worst GM even with the handful of bad contracts he gave out. Would be nice if he had a better track record of drafting the mid rounds.

[Mr. Scot]

17 minutes ago, top dawg said:

You keep saying this type of thing,  and I'm not going to get in some long-winded debate because we know where we stand,  but suffice it to say that though Hurney made some awful blunders with scouting,  so do they all.  Fortunately,  or unfortunately depending upon how look at it, building a championship team is more than simply about scouting. Plus,  a good manager knows how and when to defer to his experts.  That is most definitely something that can be learned and/or reflected upon after being canned.

Three good seasons out of eleven, two of which came while the roster still had a lot of Seifert's players...

Sustained mediocrity after that, including one season of being the absolute worst team in the league...

And not a single team showed any interest in hiring him as a GM, or any other front office position for that matter. Nobody even wanted him as an assistant something or other, except you know who...

Marty could reflect and ponder,  meditate and medicate, masturbate and defecate for a decade if he wanted to, and he still wouldn't be qualified to be a general manager.

[Murph]

I think a lot of Huddler's still haven't come to terms that Hurney will not only be here through free agency and the draft but he will be mostly in charge of it. One thing I have come to terms with is that Hurney has never drafted a WR worthy of being a #1. Hoping for a game changer in this draft under Hurney would be futile.

[hsfolk]

what goes on in NO?

[rayzor]

marty's goal (as was fox's) was to keep the team that went to the superbowl in 2003 together as long as possible.

[Car123]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Three good seasons out of eleven, two of which came while the roster still had a lot of Seifert's players...

Sustained mediocrity after that, including one season of being the absolute worst team in the league...

And not a single team showed any interest in hiring him as a GM, or any other front office position for that matter. Nobody even wanted him as an assistant something or other, except you know who...

Marty could reflect and ponder,  meditate and medicate, masturbate and defecate for a decade if he wanted to, and he still wouldn't be qualified to be a general manager.

2004 and 2007 weren’t on Hurney. We would have made the playoffs if it weren’t for injuries to our pro bowlers.

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, TN05 said:

And instead we got multiple draft picks, including a third rounder.

Not the issue. Just saying we didn’t have to trade him to get him off the books.for 2018. Don’t mind the trade at all. But there should have been some sort of replacement plan for this year.

[rayzor]

Just now, hsfolk said:

what goes on in NO?

biggest problem is backloading contracts and you've got a QB who is great, but also stuck on himself and wants to be the highest paid QB in the league...again...and is willing to put the team at risk to achieve it.

[TN05]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

Not the issue. Just saying we didn’t have to trade him to get him off the books.for 2018. Don’t mind the trade at all. But there should have been some sort of replacement plan for this year.

The plan was Curtis Samuel and Byrd. Unfortunately both got hurt, which is maybe predictable but also beyond our control