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Hurney is "the worst GM in the NFL"

Jeremy Igo

By Jeremy Igo,
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*FreeFua* Grand Master

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1 hour ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Did it continue under Gettlmean? Same owner, new GM.

 

I'll wait.

If you don’t think JR played a role in the Delhomme contract you must think that Matt Kalil contract was all Gettleman then... Captain Munnerlyn too.

JR’s played a huge role in all these massive deals. Gettleman had the spine to stand up to him because he had his rèsumè to fall back on, Hurney did not.

Hurney became a “yes man” in order to keep his multi million dollar a year paying job that he’d otherwise not have (as we saw when he was fired and didn’t get a job elsewhere).

I really hope this thread was a business move and not what you actually think.

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2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

If you don’t think JR played a role in the Delhomme contract you must think that Matt Kalil contract was all Gettleman then... Captain Munnerlyn too.

JR’s played a huge role in all these massive deals. Gettleman had the spine to stand up to him because he had his rèsumè to fall back on, Hurney did not.

Hurney became a “yes man” in order to keep his multi million dollar a year paying job that he’d otherwise not have (as we saw when he was fired and didn’t get a job elsewhere).

I really hope this thread was a business move and not what you actually think.

Captain and Kalil were all gettleman.

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2 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

If you don’t think JR played a role in the Delhomme contract you must think that Matt Kalil contract was all Gettleman then... Captain Munnerlyn too.

JR’s played a huge role in all these massive deals. Gettleman had the spine to stand up to him because he had his rèsumè to fall back on, Hurney did not.

Hurney became a “yes man” in order to keep his multi million dollar a year paying job that he’d otherwise not have (as we saw when he was fired and didn’t get a job elsewhere).

I really hope this thread was a business move and not what you actually think.

so, even with some questionable moves, Gettlmean was still right for the job?

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2 hours ago, RoaringRiot said:

People really still think that was all Marty's doing? 

I came here to commment on just that. What people are really talking about are those contracts handed out after the lockout. That was all JR to show people he was committed to spending after gutting the roster in preparation for the lockout. 

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1 minute ago, Jangler said:

so, even with some questionable moves, Gettlmean was still right for the job?

Nope, I didn’t believe in Gettleman’s philosophy. 

But like the deal to Charles Johnson, you would have to be blind to pin the Matt Kalil deal all on the GM

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1 minute ago, *FreeFua* said:

Nope, I didn’t believe in Gettleman’s philosophy. 

But like the deal to Charles Johnson, you would have to be blind to pin the Matt Kalil deal all on the GM

yeah, I don't. Just the Hurney deals... But I trust DG over MH any day.

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58 minutes ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Hurney claim to fame will be first round picks.  After that he basically sucks. 

These all Hurney's picks from 2002-2012 out of 89 picks 40 were C or above while the other 49 were D's and F's.  There might a couple you could argue up or down a spot.  These are my grades based on how long they stayed with Carolina or excelled elsewhere.

2006 was his best year and sadly 2011after Cam he shyt the bed and was his worst.  He was atrocious in round two and with wide receivers.

This list is copied of the Panthers.com History page.

OVERALL GRADES FOR 89 PICKS FROM 2002 - 2012

A - 18 =  20.2% (9 OF THESE 1ST ROUNDERS)

B - 12 = 13.5%

C - 10 = 11.3%

D - 11 = 12.4%

F - 38 = 42.6%

GRADES IN RELATIVITY TO THE ROUND THEY WERE PICKED. (These are my grades I am sure you will have your own)

2002
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (2) DE Julius Peppers A - OBVIOUS HALL OF FAMER
2 (34) RB DeShaun Foster C - CLAIM TO FAME RUN AGAINST PHILLY IN PLAYOFFS
3 (73)  LB Will Witherspoon B - ENDED UP FREE AGENT TO STL RAMS
4 (100) CB Dante Wesley B 
5a (137) QB Randy Fasani F
5b (145)  FB Kyle Johnson F
6 (174) TE Keith Heinrich F
7a (213) T Pete Campion F
7b (258)  CB Brad Franklin F
2003
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (8) T Jordan Gross A - BEST LT CAROLINA EVER HAD
2 (50)  C Bruce Nelson F
3a (76) TE Mike Seidman F
3b (82)  CB Ricky Manning, Jr. C CLAIM TO FAME 3 INTS AGAINT PHILLY NFCCG
4 (119) S Colin Branch B
5 (145) DE Kindal Moorehead B
7a (226)  WR Walter Young F
7b (247)  FB Casey Moore F
2004
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (28) * CB Chris Gamble A - ALL TIME INTERCEPTION LEADER FOR PANTHERS
2 (62) WR Keary Colbert F
3 (94) OL Travelle Wharton A PLAYED MULTIPLE POSITIONS FOR MANY YEARS
5 (163) WR Drew Carter F
6 (196) LB Sean Tufts F
7 (232) TE Michael Gaines B HUNG AROUND FORA FEW YEARS
2005
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (14) S Thomas Davis A - ONE OF THE ALL TIME CAROLINA PANTHER GREATS
2 (54)  RB Eric Shelton F
3a (79) OL Evan Mathis A SADLY PLAYED FOR ANOTHER TEAM MADE PRO BOWL (SAINTS?)
3b (89)  DT Atiyyah Ellison F
4 (121) F QB Stefan LeFors F
5a (149) LB Adam Seward F
5b (169)  OL Geoff Hangartner B OUTSTANDING BACKUP AND LATER STARTER FOR PANTHERS
5c (171)  S Ben Emanuel F
6a (189) DE Jovan Haye A ANOTHER PLAYER THAT PLAYED WELL FOR ANOTHER TEAM
6b (207)  G Joe Berger C
2006
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (27) RB DeAngelo Williams A
2 (58) CB Richard Marshall A
3a (88)  LB James Anderson A
3b (89) T Rashad Butler F
4 (121) S Nate Salley D
5 (155) TE Jeff King B
7a (234) C Will Montgomery B
7b (237)  DE Stanley McClover F
2007
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (25) * LB Jon Beason A
2a (45) WR Dwayne Jarrett F
2b (59)  C Ryan Kalil A CAROLINA'S BEST CENTER
3 (83) DE Charles Johnson A 
4 (118) WR Ryne Robinson F
5a (155) TE Dante Rosario D
5b (164)  LB Tim Shaw D
7 (226) S C.J. Wilson D
2008
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1a (13) RB Jonathan Stewart A
1b (19)  T Jeff Otah C TRADED 2009 1ST FOR HIM
3a (67)  S Charles Godfrey C
3b (74) LB Dan Connor C
5 (141)  TE Gary Barnidge B PRO BOWLER WITH CLEVELAND
6 (181) DT Nick Hayden C
7 (221) DE Hilee Taylor F
7 (241)  T Geoff Schwartz C
7 (250)  G Mackenzy Bernadeau D
2009
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
2a (43)  DE Everette Brown F TRADED 2010 1ST FOR HIM
2b (59) CB Sherrod Martin C
3 (93) DT Corvey Irvin D
4a (111)  RB Mike Goodson D
4b (128) FB Tony Fiammetta C
5 163) G Duke Robinson F
2010
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
2 (48) QB Jimmy Clausen F
3a (78) WR Brandon LaFell B
3b (89)  WR Armanti Edwards F
4 (124)  DE Eric Norwood D
6a (175)  DE Greg Hardy B
6b (198)  WR David Gettis F
6c (202)  S Jordan Pugh F
6d (204)  QB Tony Pike F
7a (223) CB R.J. Stanford F
7b (249)  CB Robert McClain B STILL IN LEAGUE
2011
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (1) QB Cam Newton A FUTURE HOFer BEST QB IN CAROLINA HISTORY
3a (65) DT Terrell McClain F
3b (97)  DT Sione Fua F
4 (98) CB Brandon Hogan F
5 (132) WR Kealoha Pilares D
6a (166) LB Lawrence Wilson F
6b (203)  G Zack Williams F
7b (244)  T Lee Ziemba F
2012
ROUND POS PLAYER GRADE
1 (9) LB Luke Kuechly A - FUTURE HOFer #1 LB IN CAROLINA HISTORY
2 (40) G Amini Silatolu D
4a (103)  DE Frank Alexander D
4b (104) WR Joe Adams F
5 (143) CB Josh Norman A - DEVELOPED INTO SHUT DOWN CORNER
6b (207)  P Brad Nortman A - GOOD PUNTER FOR JAGS NOW
7 (216) S D.J. Campbell F

 

 

Create one for DG’s drafts.

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2 hours ago, Jeremy Igo said:

Noticed this comment from the guy that runs overthecap.com, a site that keeps up with the salary cap for each team.

Apparently, they feel when it comes to cap management, he is the bottom of the barrel. Although, those of us that pay attention and have a memory know that already.

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So ppl don’t make adjustments and learn from their mistakes?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, hepcat said:

Scenario: Richardson fired Gettleman because he found out he’s a perv and a racist. So Richardson rehired Hurney who either tolerated his pervy businsss or might be a perv himself...

That hypothetical was discussed muchly the week JR was outed and stepped back (supposedly) from team control.

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10 minutes ago, Jangler said:

yeah, I don't. Just the Hurney deals... But I trust DG over MH any day.

Like I said, Gettleman had a rèsumè to fall back on if JR fired him for standing up to him, Hurney didn’t. 

So Hurney was in a tough spot. Risk losing your multi million dollar paying job to stand up to JR or just became a “yes man” and get PAID. I think the choice is an easy one.

Now with JR gone we’ll see what Hurney does. 

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