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Torry Holt on Norv Turner hire


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2 hours ago, Carolina Cajun said:

Guys on here have been over-reacting like crazy in a negative way to Norv.  IMO, I think he's gonna be good.  Goal isn't #1 offense, it's top 5 rush and top 15 pass, which both are completely doable with tweaks to our personnel and an intelligent approach to our offensive play calling.  First, lets remember why Shula got hired.  He wasn't the most qualified, he was the only one that would take the job since it was perceived that "Ron was a lame duck coach" going into his contract year after Chud left if I remember correct.  Good for him to be serviceable, but it's time to go.

As for Norv, Cam has experience with Air Coryell, don't throw out his understandable concepts just to "change" things.  Norv will ask him to be more judicious in the run game, but his pass concept will be the same, but maybe he won't run an aging stewart on a goddamn go-route and think he's being innovative.  He's also better and getting Cam to work on his timing of his throws.  If Cam wants to improve as a passer (which I think he does), Norv will be a guy to help take him to the next level.  In Minn, Zimmer conflicted with him so there were mixed signals, it's better to just let one or the other just run the show, and in this case, Norv will run the show, Ron will focus on the Defense with wilks.

FWIW, Norv helped make both V-Jax and Josh Gordon, helped Antonio Gates, and helped Darren Sproles, so he has experience with all the kind of weapons we have, aside from the athletic freak we have at QB in Cam Newton.  I think this can be dominant, and FWIW, I think the only reason he came back to coach was to help mentor his son to eventually take that position in a few seasons, so he knows his success will eventually be his son's success, giving him more motivation to succeed.

Well written and well reasoned. Thanks for that!

 

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15 hours ago, ecu88 said:

Did someone say Bang 8s? Time to feast!

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Personally, the bang 8 and the deep dig are my favorite routes and if he can get Cam's mechanics situated, you are right.  I am always concerned throwing high over the middle.  The fact that Dorsey and Shula never fixed Cam's feet was terrible.  I also saw using him as a runner to be a desperate act.  I wonder how effective Cam will be after age 30 because of that.

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6 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Personally, the bang 8 and the deep dig are my favorite routes and if he can get Cam's mechanics situated, you are right.  I am always concerned throwing high over the middle.  The fact that Dorsey and Shula never fixed Cam's feet was terrible.  I also saw using him as a runner to be a desperate act.  I wonder how effective Cam will be after age 30 because of that.

IF...Cam continues to play this type of football, his play in his 30's will fall off a cliff, unless he fine tunes his mechanics and feet, which is what I assume Norv is here to help with.

When Cam slows down the running, and passes with more consistency, he will extend his career years...if he wants to.

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