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No prospect screams "WR1" to me after cursory glance


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2 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Oh,  I guess you forgot the part where Pryor was a QB switching positions.  How convenient. 

No I didn't forget the part where he sucked as a QB.. I remember Kuchely  panting him on a QB sneak.lol

He will also be 29 when the season starts next year.. Did you forget about that??

How many years are we going to have to wait until he finishes this conversion?? Lol

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4 minutes ago, top dawg said:

Cutler has a pretty big arm.  

He also has a inaccurate dumb arm as well..  and again Cutler big arm still only produced 50 less catches for stills and Parker.. Compare to the get open make play king. Haha

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Just now, Cpt slay a ho said:

yeah I don’t understand the moncrief and Pryor love, both have underachieved heavily 

How can Pryor underachieve heavily after playing at a position for two years?  Anyway,  It's not that I "love" anyone of these guys.  I look at the FA pool and see a bunch of injury-riddled underachievers if you get right down to it.  That being said,  you have to be realistic about the options from an economic standpoint,  as well as how they will actually fit into the puzzle. I'm not trying to be unrealistic, and deal in hypotheticals that just aren't going to happen (e.g., talking about Landry, Watkins or Robinson magically giving us some type of discount because they just want to play with Cam and the Panthers so badly).  These guys want to get paid, notwithstanding their injuries. 

all that being said,  I'm looking for guys that will provide the best value.  Poo-poo Crief all you like, but he is still young and likely has his best years ahead of him.  He's big,  fast, and has flashed enough talent on this level that I know he can contribute in this league. I feel that Lee is a WR with leading receiver upside, and I've seen Pryor flash as well.  Unlike some of the pie-in-the sky options,  some of which who may not be good fits or good values relative to what they may bring to the table (because they're underachievers as well), I'm trying to be realistic.  

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8 minutes ago, top dawg said:

How can Pryor underachieve heavily after playing at a position for two years?  Anyway,  It's not that I "love" anyone of these guys.  I look at the FA pool and see a bunch of injury-riddled underachievers if you get right down to it.  That being said,  you have to be realistic about the options from an economic standpoint,  as well as how they will actually fit into the puzzle. I'm not trying to be unrealistic, and deal in hypotheticals that just aren't going to happen (e.g., talking about Landry, Watkins or Robinson magically giving us some type of discount because they just want to play with Cam and the Panthers so badly).  These guys want to get paid, notwithstanding their injuries. 

all that being said,  I'm looking for guys that will provide the best value.  Poo-poo Crief all you like, but he is still young and likely has his best years ahead of him.  He's big,  fast, and has flashed enough talent on this level that I know he can contribute in this league. I feel that Lee is a WR with leading receiver upside, and I've seen Pryor flash as well.  Unlike some of the pie-in-the sky options,  some of which who may not be good fits or good values relative to what they may bring to the table (because they're underachievers as well), I'm trying to be realistic.  

No you are Stuck on doing the same stupid poo this team has done for 4 years.. When it comes to this position..

Bargain shop at the I hope this guy is good store and fail your QB when he isn't..

How about we try something different this time and actual try to get a person with a track record of production..

Reality is you have some older vets who need to go and you might need to let Star walk and Nor well to if he wants to break the bank..

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Calvin Ridley will be a #1. And will be gone way before pick 24.

Dunno about other guys.

I hope we target someone like Taylor Gabriel to help out Funch, Samuel, and Byrd. Not a lot of cash if we wanna keep Norwell/Star. First round pick should probably be the best offensive skill position player available unless we really fall in love with a DB (Joshua Jackson) or DE (Sam Hubbard?).

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The Rams are expecting to franchise Sammy so remove him from the wishlist as well. 

 

 

Realistically the best options available are Donte Moncrief, Paul Richardson (although he might be back in Seattle), and Allen Robinson. If Martavius becomes available then we should go for him as well.

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1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

No you are Stuck on doing the same stupid poo this team has done for 4 years.. When it comes to this position..

Bargain shop at the I hope this guy is good store and fail your QB when he isn't..

How about we try something different this time and actual try to get a person with a track record of production..

You keep saying that,  but it's not quite accurate.  We've scraped the bottom of the barrel as it pertains to several positions,  including WR.  Bargain shopping doesn't have to consist of waiting until after the racks, shelves and bins have been mercilessly picked over. The best bargain shoppers know when to strike.  That's  rarely on day one,  but not necessarily on the last days either. If you think that Moncrief, Lee, Pryor, or Wallace for example are dumpster dives,  then you're crazy.  After Miami pays Landry, the Jags pay Robinson,  and the Rams pay Watkins,  your whole tune is going to change.  It will. 

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24 minutes ago, top dawg said:

How can Pryor underachieve heavily after playing at a position for two years?  Anyway,  It's not that I "love" anyone of these guys.  I look at the FA pool and see a bunch of injury-riddled underachievers if you get right down to it.  That being said,  you have to be realistic about the options from an economic standpoint,  as well as how they will actually fit into the puzzle. I'm not trying to be unrealistic, and deal in hypotheticals that just aren't going to happen (e.g., talking about Landry, Watkins or Robinson magically giving us some type of discount because they just want to play with Cam and the Panthers so badly).  These guys want to get paid, notwithstanding their injuries. 

all that being said,  I'm looking for guys that will provide the best value.  Poo-poo Crief all you like, but he is still young and likely has his best years ahead of him.  He's big,  fast, and has flashed enough talent on this level that I know he can contribute in this league. I feel that Lee is a WR with leading receiver upside, and I've seen Pryor flash as well.  Unlike some of the pie-in-the sky options,  some of which who may not be good fits or good values relative to what they may bring to the table (because they're underachievers as well), I'm trying to be realistic.  

Yeah I can understand that but what’s your problem with Goodwin ? He’s statistically had a better season than moncrief and almost Pryor in there careers. Realistically doubt it happens but just curious on why you feel he’s a glorified Philly. We agree on Lee, I’m hoping jags sign either Robinson or Lee back and we grab which ever is available out of the two. I think both are great compliments to funchess. Pryor had a sub 300 yard season with Kirk cousins, that’s bad, and age plays a factor, this has a dg signing all over because it’s high risk high reward. Moncrief I haven’t seen enough out of to think he’s going to ball out here, but would take him over Pryor.

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1 minute ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Yeah I can understand that but what’s your problem with Goodwin ? He’s statistically had a better season than moncrief and almost Pryor. Realistically doubt it happens but just curious on why you feel he’s a glorified Philly. We agree on Lee, I’m hoping jags sign either Robinson or Lee back and we grab which ever is available out of the two. I think both are great compliments to funchess. Pryor had a sub 300 yard season with Kirk cousins, that’s bad, and age plays a factor, this has a dg signing all over because it’s high risk high reward. Moncrief I haven’t seen enough out of to think he’s going to ball out here, but would take him over Pryor.

Goodwin is the kind of receiver that you take if you can't find anyone else, and that's exactly what Frisco did. He has had ample opportunity to step it up in a big way, but never quite hits the mark.  He shouldn't be starting unless something has gone terribly wrong. 

DG was not a high risk-reward guy,  so you made me laugh. DG was a cheapskate. He never ever brought in a receiver with true leading-receiver upside (not even Ginn). 

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For all you guys talking down about Moncrief, Pryor or Lee,  you keep that same tune when the "top" guys are signed,  otherwise I'm going to razz you a little bit. 

My thing is,  that this year based upon what I've seen, you might well wish you have them come draft time. 

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