Has Norv Turner actually been Hired ?

[CRA]

I don't think Norv is THAT big a stickler on mechanics. 

See Rivers' shotput throw

[FugAllY'all]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think Norv is THAT big a stickler on mechanics. 

See Rivers' shotput throw

You don't change anything from the waist up once a QB get's to the NFL, it's a recipe for disaster. Rivers broke NCAA records throwing the ball like that, it would have been insanity to try to change the way he threw. About the only case I remember that being successful was Tony Romo, basically Bill Parcells said that if he didn't raise his release point, he'd never be able to play. So he spent an entire summer throwing the ball with a net in front of his face and made the change. That was before he was ever a starter though. 

What you can and should work on is foot work. Even with a totally clean pocket, Cam often neglects to set his feet for really no reason at all other than laziness. That's where you see those throws that miss high and wide to an open receiver. Norv can definitely work with him on that.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, CRA said:

I don't think Norv is THAT big a stickler on mechanics. 

See Rivers' shotput throw

Rivers has been a sidearm thrower his entire career.

I definitely get the feeling there are aspects of Newton's game they want to work on. Mechanics and footwork might be part of that, but not necessarily.

And heck, Favre won a Super Bowl. Delhomme almost did.

[Fox007]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rivers has been a sidearm thrower his entire career.

I definitely get the feeling there are aspects of Newton's game they want to work on. Mechanics and footwork might be part of that, but not necessarily.

And heck, Favre won a Super Bowl. Delhomme almost did.

Because he's a HoF people wanna forget that Favre threw the ball all sorts of fuged up and constantly made throws and had his mechanics in a way which drove Holmgren mad.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, Fox007 said:

Because he's a HoF people wanna forget that Favre threw the ball all sorts of fuged up and constantly made throws and had his mechanics in a way which drove Holmgren mad.

Elway wasn't exactly a picture perfect thrower either.

Marino was, but he has no rings.

It is a team sport.

[Paa Langfart]

2 hours ago, FugAllY'all said:

It is kinda weird how this has apparently been a done deal for 2 days yet no official announcement. Maybe Norv getting cold feet? 

If we don't hear he has taken the job by tomorrow it will not be a good sign for getting NT to sign on.  Maybe Mrs. Norv has the final say at this point.  I listened to an interview from a couple years ago and the interviewer asked NT what he thought about taking another HC job.  NT replied that his wife would hit him in the back of the head with a sledge hammer if he did.

[Fox007]

Just now, Paa Langfart said:

If we don't hear he has taken the job by tomorrow it will not be a good sign for getting NT to sign on.  Maybe Mrs. Norv has the final say at this point.  I listened to an interview from a couple years ago and the interviewer asked NT what he thought about taking another HC job.  NT replied that his wife would hit him in the back of the head with a sledge hammer if he did.

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[CPcavedweller]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I think it's more like he's doing the interviews.  Ron is going to have to sell him on taking the job I'm certain.

It will all come down to getting Newton to buy in however.  If Cam at with it then we have a problem.

Norv has family with the Panthers. It won't take a sell of the job, only the Panthers completing their due diligence of the Rooney Rule. 

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

Norv has family with the Panthers. It won't take a sell of the job, only the Panthers completing their due diligence of the Rooney Rule. 

Rooney rule doesn't apply here.  

[CPcavedweller]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

Rooney rule doesn't apply here.  

Fairly certain it does? 

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

Fairly certain it does? 

no

[Billy Love]

1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

Fairly certain it does? 

It does not. Only head coach and executive positions

[CPcavedweller]

Just now, Billy Love said:

It does not. Only head coach and executive positions

So the Rooney Rule is a PR thing. If you don't protect minorities from being discriminated against in coordinator positions, how are you supposed to pretend to do the same for Head Coaching positions; considering the fact that coordinator positions are oftentimes if not always the launch point to a head coach job. 

So if you keep minorities out of coordinator positions, they are never going to be qualified candidates when interviewing for a head coaching position against a guy who has experience as a coordinator. 

[Paa Langfart]

1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

So the Rooney Rule is a PR thing. If you don't protect minorities from being discriminated against in coordinator positions, how are you supposed to pretend to do the same for Head Coaching positions; considering the fact that coordinator positions are oftentimes if not always the launch point to a head coach job. 

So if you keep minorities out of coordinator positions, they are never going to be qualified candidates when interviewing for a head coaching position against a guy who has experience as a coordinator. 

Call the commissioner and complain.