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Has Norv Turner actually been Hired ?

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Just now, thomas96 said:

Cam will have essentially zero input into who we hire as OC. And that's the way it should be.

No he doesn't make the decision.  I'm saying there's no point in going through all this if Cam baulks at it.  If he doesn't buy in then what's the point?  It would be a waste of everyone's time and money.  Cam will have to accept his teaching and put a more concerted effort into cleaning up his mechanics and learning to read the defense the way Norv wants him to.  Norv will be more involved in the film room than Cam is use to.  

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2 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

No he doesn't make the decision.  I'm saying there's no point in going through all this if Cam baulks at it.  If he doesn't buy in then what's the point?  It would be a waste of everyone's time and money.  Cam will have to accept his teaching and put a more concerted effort into cleaning up his mechanics and learning to read the defense the way Norv wants him to.  Norv will be more involved in the film room than Cam is use to.  

I think Cam needs to work on his footwork....but I also think you can overdue "correcting" someone mechanics.   At this stage in the game.  Players are what they.  Tinker too much and you mess some of them up. 

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I think Cam needs to work on his footwork....but I also think you can overdue "correcting" someone mechanics.   At this stage in the game.  Players are what they.  Tinker too much and you mess some of them up. 

I agree.  But it will be an issue that has to be addressed to an extent.  And like I said, Cam has to buy in or else this is an exercise in futility.

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5 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

No he doesn't make the decision.  I'm saying there's no point in going through all this if Cam baulks at it.  If he doesn't buy in then what's the point?  It would be a waste of everyone's time and money.  Cam will have to accept his teaching and put a more concerted effort into cleaning up his mechanics and learning to read the defense the way Norv wants him to.  Norv will be more involved in the film room than Cam is use to.  

Never let a player dictate or veto who you hire, not even if the player is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Never let a player dictate or veto who you hire, not even if the player is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.

 

Tesla walks into your office and says, "Boss, I have this great idea. It is called 'alternating current'. But your mid-manager that is your cousin won't let me do my little experiments."

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13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Never let a player dictate or veto who you hire, not even if the player is Tom Brady, Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers.

I agree completely, if this were normal circumstances.  This is uncharted territory here because as far as I know I have never seen a situation like this in the NFL. 

We are experiencing as close to a complete turnover as you can get from the owner on down to the coaches.  The head coach is auditioning for his job, the GM is a lost cause and the owner has been exiled.

Now mix in what appears to be a situation where everyone is afraid to upset the QB and you have a recipe for disaster.  It would behove them to get rid QB to get on board or they will just be pissing in the wind.  I know if I were at Norv's age I wouldn't want to have to battle with my QB every week just to get him to follow my instructions.  Would you?

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6 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

I agree completely, if this were normal circumstances.  This is uncharted territory here because as far as I know I have never seen a situation like this in the NFL. 

We are experiencing as close to a complete turnover as you can get from the owner on down to the coaches.  The head coach is auditioning for his job, the GM is a lost cause and the owner has been exiled.

Now mix in what appears to be a situation where everyone is afraid to upset the QB and you have a recipe for disaster.  It would behove them to get rid QB to get on board or they will just be pissing in the wind.  I know if I were at Norv's age I wouldn't want to have to battle with my QB every week just to get him to follow my instructions.  Would you?

If Cam's battling the OC then he is the problem and needs to go. He's a professional and is going to work his ass off no matter the situation.

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19 minutes ago, CRA said:

I think Cam needs to work on his footwork....but I also think you can overdue "correcting" someone mechanics.   At this stage in the game.  Players are what they.  Tinker too much and you mess some of them up. 

Ron gave an interview today and was asked about Cam's mechanics and whether Norv (or someone else) would try to change them. He stressed they would refine and sharpen some things but not change. 

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