This fan base has fallen off a cliff when it comes to this Norv Turner hatred

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

so he only knows one system and is stuck in that system? No it's football and like i said nothing here is going to catch him by surprise ...you only get to be an old dog in this league if you do learn some new tricks...

So lets get this straight? Every coach or coordinator in the league is equally prepared, nothing surprises them and they are all adaptable and flexible because they have been around a long time. So the older the coach the better they are because they have been around? 

Do you actually believe half of what you post or do you like to just argue. If you only talked about what you knew I suspect you would be a mime.

 

[heel31ok]

5 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

So lets get this straight? Every coach or coordinator in the league is equally prepared, nothing surprises them and they are all adaptable and flexible because they have been around a long time. So the older the coach the better they are because they have been around? 

Do you actually believe half of what you post or do you like to just argue. If you only talked about what you knew I suspect you would be a mime.

 

oh, so let me get this straight, we were talking about every coach or coordinator in this league ? move the goal post much?  I don't feel bad for having sympathy for you but I do feel bad you proved it was a wasted  effort...I will be mime from now on. enjoy your pit of misery ...

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

but they can magically snap their fingers and fill positions of need to the point that the system in place works as designed...there are players out there that we can get that can make us a whole lot better going into next season...

There are players out there but given Hurney's new attitude of being more objective and less emotional and his discussing potential salary cap issues when he was hired, I wonder what his sense of our needs are and whether he will spend the money to fill those needs or do as he did before which was count on the draft and not go heavy into free agency.

[heel31ok]

14 minutes ago, theballboy said:

Jim Caldwell

is he on the list? 

[Jon Snow]

You guys aren't seeing the big picture here.  This is a chess game and you are thinking checkers.

You all saw the video of the Saints celebrating sending the Panthers home.

This is about kin, there will be blood.

[panthers55]

14 minutes ago, heel31ok said:

he walks in the door better ...his career and body of work show that. And when it happens I wont piss it in your face. Keep in touch though.

No they arent. His winning percentage as a head coach and OC in the NFL is worse than Shula. Once again you have no clue what you are talking about and no clue about Turner but what you read on Wikipedia. Do some homework and then get back with me.

[therealmjl]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

No they arent. His winning percentage as a head coach and OC in the NFL is worse than Shula. Once again you have no clue what you are talking about and no clue about Turner but what you read on Wikipedia. Do some homework and then get back with me.

What does his record as a HC have to do with anything?

What is Shula's record as a HC?

[therealmjl]

It's pretty silly to judge an OC on their W/L record.

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, mjligon said:

What does his record as a HC have to do with anything?

What is Shula's record as a HC?

Then why did you and others bring up Alabama and Shula's record as HC as a criticism or that he hasn't had interviews as a HC in the NFL if they aren't connected. Talking out of both sides as usual.

[therealmjl]

Just now, panthers55 said:

Then why did you and others bring up Alabama and Shula's record as HC as a criticism or that he hasn't had interviews as a HC in the NFL if they aren't connected. Talking out of both sides as usual.

What are you talking about?

I quit talking to you when you compared the offense Atlanta ran with Vick to what we have been running with Cam.

[therealmjl]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Then why did you and others bring up Alabama and Shula's record as HC as a criticism or that he hasn't had interviews as a HC in the NFL if they aren't connected. Talking out of both sides as usual.

Shula hasn't had any interviews for HC positions in the NFL because he is not a very good offensive coordinator or game manager in general. Plus I am almost positive he sucks from a personality/leadership perspective.

What part of that is confusing to you?

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, mjligon said:

It's pretty silly to judge an OC on their W/L record.

If you are the type that believes that past records are an accurate indicator of future success it might not be.

It tend to wait until it actually happens to form an opinion.

[therealmjl]

Just now, Jon Snow said:

If you are the type that believes that past records are an accurate indicator of future success it might not be.

It tend to wait until it actually happens to form an opinion.

But just because you can't win games doesn't mean you are not a good offensive coordinator.

I mean what was Sean McVay's record while he was running the Redskins offense? What about Chud's W/L?

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, mjligon said:

But just because you can't win games doesn't mean you are not a good offensive coordinator.

I mean what was Sean McVay's record while he was running the Redskins offense? What about Chud's W/L?

And the future hasn't played out?