This fan base has fallen off a cliff when it comes to this Norv Turner hatred

[therealmjl]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

What does that have to do with anything. Truth is Newton could be an OC killer. Everyone sees his athleticism and thinks he ought to be the next coming of Superman and any problems he has must be due to the OC or QB coach. When the reality is he has regressed since 2015 and can't stay healthy.

Everyone look at me

[FugAllY'all]

41 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

Being a head coach =/= being a coordinator

Sure, but it was just like Sean Payton in NO, Andy Reid in KC or McCarthy in Green Bay. The head coach is running the offense, OC is a glorified messenger boy. 

[therealmjl]

Cam Newton the OC killer LOLOLOL

[therealmjl]

8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

What does that have to do with anything. Truth is Newton could be an OC killer. Everyone sees his athleticism and thinks he ought to be the next coming of Superman and any problems he has must be due to the OC or QB coach. When the reality is he has regressed since 2015 and can't stay healthy.

Hey there brainiac, it’s worth reminding you that Cam is the sole reason Chud got a head coaching job in the first place (which he absolutely failed at and is currently looking for a job). But yeah I tell you what! That Cam Newton is an OC killer!

LOL at you basically saying Cam got Shula fired. Bahahaha. If anything, Cam is the sole reason Shula was hired in the first place...because you’d have to be a complete moron to fail at having a luxury like Cam Newton to work with, but lo and behold, here we are. A trained monkey could have done a better job than Shula when it came down to it.

Shula won’t even sniff another OC position in the league, but yeah, that’s Cams fault.

[heel31ok]

Just now, panthers55 said:

What does that have to do with anything. Truth is Newton could be an OC killer. Everyone sees his athleticism and thinks he ought to be the next coming of Superman and any problems he has must be due to the OC or QB coach. When the reality is he has regressed since 2015 and can't stay healthy.

it has everything to do with it...Truth is we are not that far away from making another SB run...with Cam...the window is closing and it's a 2-3 yr scenario.  So we don't need a long term solution just a strike now solution. Norv doesn't need security he needs to go out with a big splash...this sets up perfect for that...The Giants don't offer an immediate SB contender, we do...He offers an upgrade to us who were not that far away from a run in the playoffs with our current setup.The more objections raised the more things I see pointing to this being a great opportunity for all.Thanks for pointing that out.Pt by pt this seems to be the way we need to go...

[Dunn]

8 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

What does that have to do with anything. Truth is Newton could be an OC killer. Everyone sees his athleticism and thinks he ought to be the next coming of Superman and any problems he has must be due to the OC or QB coach. When the reality is he has regressed since 2015 and can't stay healthy.

[MechaZain]

Will never understand the "appreciate whatever you get" congregation on this here message board.

I wanted him gone because I hated his scheme.  I don't want a more experienced version of it. 

[therealmjl]

Just now, MechaZain said:

Will never understand the "appreciate whatever you get" congregation on this here message board.

I wanted him gone because I hated his scheme.  I don't want a more experienced version of it. 

Who do you want?

[therealmjl]

@panthers55 I’ve seen a lot of terrible posts. But you suggesting Cam got Shula fired takes the cake. Get back in here and get served.

[therealmjl]

4 minutes ago, mjligon said:

Hey there brainiac, it’s worth reminding you that Cam is the sole reason Chud got a head coaching job in the first place (which he absolutely failed at and is currently looking for a job). But yeah I tell you what! That Cam Newton is an OC killer!

LOL at you basically saying Cam got Shula fired. Bahahaha. If anything, Cam is the sole reason Shula was hired in the first place...because you’d have to be a complete moron to fail at having a luxury like Cam Newton to work with, but lo and behold, here we are. A trained monkey could have done a better job than Shula when it came down to it.

Shula won’t even sniff another OC position in the league, but yeah, that’s Cams fault.

@panthers55 get back in here

[therealmjl]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

What does that have to do with anything. Truth is Newton could be an OC killer. Everyone sees his athleticism and thinks he ought to be the next coming of Superman and any problems he has must be due to the OC or QB coach. When the reality is he has regressed since 2015 and can't stay healthy.

 

[panthers55]

2 minutes ago, mjligon said:

Hey there brainiac, it’s worth reminding you that Cam is the sole reason Chud got a head coaching job in the first place (which he absolutely failed at and is currently looking for a job). But yeah I tell you what! That Cam Newton is an OC killer!

LOL at you saying Cam got Shula fired. Bahahahaha. Shula won’t even sniff another OC position in the league, but that’s Cams fault.

They used to say the same thing with Tony Romo. The issue is that Cam can be so dominating one moment and awful the next that he makes it hard for a consistent offense. It isn't that Cam got Shula fired so much as Shula built the offense around Cam and he was given control over the audibles and everything. So he was the reason we struggled or succeeded. Now add that Shula gets no credit because it all goes to Cam and it means that Shula was given no credit if things worked and blamed if it failed.

[panthers55]

4 minutes ago, mjligon said:

@panthers55 I’ve seen a lot of terrible posts. But you suggesting Cam got Shula fired takes the cake. Get back in here and get served.

I didn't say that. Read what I did just  say and then respond with maturity and thought if you are capable.

[Riverboat Ron]

Anything less than the #1 offense, #1 defense, drafting at least 5 All-pros this next draft, and winning the Super Bowl 75-0 is unacceptable imo.