REPORT: Panthers will hire Norv Turner as OC

[Ricky Spanish]

Something I've never considered until now:

We have always had issues in the redzone under Shula. Could this have something to do with the Coryell offensive system? Since it is predicated on deeper/medium routes, does shrinking the field take away the main purpose of the passing attack itself? Is this a problem with all Air Coryell offenses or just ours?Am I talking out of my ass? People with more football knowledge please let me know. 

[JARROD]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

There's not a huge difference between Coryell and E-P other than language, but Coryell and WCO have very different emphasis and require different skill sets.

To run a Coryell, you primarily want deep threat receivers.  YAC isn't necessarily a big deal.  To run WCO though, you want guys who can take a short pass and make people miss. 

Blocking schemes are different too.  WCO generally prefers lighter, more agile OL guys because they do a lot of zone and cut blocking in that approach.  Coryell systems tend to prefer the big big uglys.

So yeah, it matters.

I think that’s speaking old kungfu.

too black and white.

Too many iterations of each “system” now

the NFL has become mixed martial arts— old kungfu died.

[PantherPhann89]

I'm not sure I like this,  but he's gotta be betta than Shula. 

What I wanted is a young innovative OC that would create crazy mismatches, but an unproven college OC may be more of a risk than Norv

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, JARROD said:

I think that’s speaking old kungfu.

too black and white.

Too many iterations of each “system” now

the NFL has become mixed martial arts— old kungfu died.

It's not that rigid.  Everybody uses plays they see others use.

But you do have to acquire the right players for your system.  If you want to run a Coryell you don't draft a weak armed QB.

9 minutes ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Something I've never considered until now:

We have always had issues in the redzone under Shula. Could this have something to do with the Coryell offensive system? Since it is predicated on deeper/medium routes, does shrinking the field take away the main purpose of the passing attack itself? Is this a problem with all Air Coryell offenses or just ours?Am I talking out of my ass? People with more football knowledge please let me know. 

Ideally speaking the Red Zone is where a power run game takes over, but yeah it's harder because you can't spread out as much vertically.

You can, however, take wider splits horizontally.

[Ivan The Awesome]

6 hours ago, MasterAwesome said:

To be fair...you just made the initial vague thread and then immediately disappeared off the face of the Earth, leaving everyone to wonder about the legitimacy of your claim. If you had at least made your statement above, then I’m sure you’d have gotten a good chunk of pie.

Well if I have to explain my "disappearance" I had to go to work and I don't have WiFi there. The information I got was right when I had to leave. But again. Whatever. This source I have has been pretty good and from now on I'm just gonna keep poo to myself.  

[JARROD]

I’m going to laugh if everyone is chattering Away about Norv and the OC ends up being someone completely different.

It’s possible that our GM and HC have a little more due diligence to their “plan”.

i don’t count on it,... but we will see.

 

[heel31ok]

11 minutes ago, JARROD said:

I’m going to laugh if everyone is chattering Away about Norv and the OC ends up being someone completely different.

It’s possible that our GM and HC have a little more due diligence to their “plan”.

i don’t count on it,... but we will see.

 

its all speculation right now ...but I am in with Turner if it happens.

[MechaZain]

Anyone but Shula and I wish him the very best with if true, just please god no long developing plays.

[L-TownCat]

4 hours ago, Cartel de Carolina said:

The quicker a QB gets the ball out his hands the better. 

Look no further than SF. 

I want a fast pace offense that looks to take the easy stuff 1st and foremost. 

And with Samuel, Byrd, Clay and CMC we’ve got the shifty guys to take those short routes the distance, ala CMC playoff TD.

[Camp Fodder]

12 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

And with Samuel, Byrd, Clay and CMC we’ve got the shifty guys to take those short routes the distance, ala CMC playoff TD.

I don’t ever want to see Clay lined up at WR again. I’m ok with him as PR but that TD drop was horrific

[Mr. Scot]

4 hours ago, Cartel de Carolina said:

The quicker a QB gets the ball out his hands the better. 

Look no further than SF. 

I want a fast pace offense that looks to take the easy stuff 1st and foremost. 

That was one of the issues Alex Smith used to have (holding the ball too long).

Turner was the one who fixed it.

[Saca312]

31 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

Anyone but Shula and I wish him the very best with if true, just please god no long developing plays.

Sorry. Norv’s whole premise involves seven step dropbacks and hail mary third downs.

Run, Run, Pass is his motto.

[JARROD]

46 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

And with Samuel, Byrd, Clay and CMC we’ve got the shifty guys to take those short routes the distance, ala CMC playoff TD.

Exactly

[LA_Panther]

There are conflicting reports. Some say we have hired him, some say he is interviewing other teams.