If new owner wants a new stadium would you be mad if it’s not uptown?

[My Goodness My Guinness]

I'd rather they just use the bones of the current stadium and renovate if they want to. It's not like BOA is a dinosaur or anything, they just did a bunch of renovations like 3 years ago and fan's aren't overflowing the seating. And what is with the need for a dome in one of the best weather states in the US? Seems like overkill and a waste of taxpayer dollars IMO. 

[goodoleboy]

2 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

NE, GB, the NY teams, Pittsburgh, Philly, Redskins, Chicago, KC, Miami, all play outside

That is how football is meant to be played 

thats some NFL royalty there

the weather is part of the game and drama and toughness

i don't need a shopping mall. I need a tough hard nosed winning football team

if Sabates and the rest want more luxury boxes, they best do a study on if there is even a market for them and how many existing PSL owners will continue to pony up money for it. I know I won't. I'm at my limit right now

Agreed I won't buy new psls either. The parking for a game at BOA is unique. There are lots of little lots where you can find shade grass and a great tailgating experience. Lets trade that in for a large expanse of asphalt or a parking deck so the owner can make money verses small businesses renting out their lots.

[My Goodness My Guinness]

23 minutes ago, ECUPantherFan said:

I would hate it.

Leave it where it is.  Parking IS an issue, so try and buy out some of the buildings and land around the stadium to develop.

I don't want the Panthers to become a soft ass dome team.

A soft ass dome team just kicked our tails this year

[tondi]

Spending billions to have a slightly less slim chance of hosting one, at most, SB is the height of idiocy.  So is building a new stadium when the old ones doing just fine.  If the local media is pushing this, its because its big money backers are telling them to.  Thats how every media fueled agenda gets started.

[bbell21]

Usually a deal is made with the NFL prior to the building of a new stadium to have them host the SB.  So I don't think a new stadium would ever be built without the guarantee of hosting a Superbowl. 

Is BOA outdated? To football fans, No! It is a great open air bowl experience. 

However from a business perspective it is close to or already outdated. No profit from parking, no on field suites, and no chance of hosting certain events with an open air venue. (SB, Final 4, College National Championship, Wrestle-mania).  Most money a stadium brings in is from club and suite level, so it will come down to how many suites they can sell, and how much they can make on new club level PSL's. 

You also have to take in account that at the earliest this new stadium will open, then BOA Stadium will be at least 27 years old, at that point it will be about time for a new stadium.  Especially considering during that time period the Raiders, Rams, Chargers, with the possibility of a new Bills and or Redskins stadium opening around the same season our new venue would open.

It will come down to this, do we want to keep the NFL here? As part of the democratic process, and taxpayers we have a say in that.  SD and St. Louis chose to not spend that $, which was their right, it was also the NFL's right to relocate the team to city that was willing to pay for them to be there. 

Before you get upset about leaving an empty BOA behind, as we move outside city for a top notch facility, also think about what your feelings will be when that Stadium is empty, and the team has moved to another state.

At the end of the day, all I want is an owner who wants the Panthers to win a SB as bad was we on the huddle want them to.  If that means my taxes go up, and we have to move into a gorgeous new stadium then I am willing to make that sacrifice.  What about you guys?

[h0llywood]

1 hour ago, thefuzz said:

And by then, it wouldn't surprise me a bit, if the NFL changed the SB format.

 

Minny

Miami

LV

NO

Houston

and start over again with Minny, or something to that effect.

 

LA is about to open the most expensive stadium in history in 2020. Don't be surprised when they start hosting multiple super bowls in the 2020's and if the city gets the NFL Draft permanently.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, h0llywood said:

LA is about to open the most expensive stadium in history in 2020. Don't be surprised when they start hosting multiple super bowls in the 2020's and if the city gets the NFL Draft permanently.

Agreed.  There it just too much uncertainty with spending $1.5B hoping you get all of these things...and I'm 100% against any taxpayer involvement.

[pnthrs]

34 minutes ago, bbell21 said:

Usually a deal is made with the NFL prior to the building of a new stadium to have them host the SB.  So I don't think a new stadium would ever be built without the guarantee of hosting a Superbowl. 

Is BOA outdated? To football fans, No! It is a great open air bowl experience. 

However from a business perspective it is close to or already outdated. No profit from parking, no on field suites, and no chance of hosting certain events with an open air venue. (SB, Final 4, College National Championship, Wrestle-mania).  Most money a stadium brings in is from club and suite level, so it will come down to how many suites they can sell, and how much they can make on new club level PSL's. 

You also have to take in account that at the earliest this new stadium will open, then BOA Stadium will be at least 27 years old, at that point it will be about time for a new stadium.  Especially considering during that time period the Raiders, Rams, chargers, with the possibility of a new Bills and or Redskins stadium opening around the same season our new venue would open.

It will come down to this, do we want to keep the NFL here? As part of the democratic process, and taxpayers we have a say in that.  SD and St. Louis chose to not spend that $, which was their right, it was also the NFL's right to relocate the team to city that were willing to pay for them to be there. 

Before you get upset about leaving an empty BOA behind, as we move outside city for a top notch facility, also think about what your feelings will be when that Stadium is empty, and the team has moved to another state.

At the end of the day, all I want is an owner who wants the Panthers to win a SB as bad was we on the huddle want them to.  If that means my taxes go up, and we have to move into a gorgeous new stadium then I am willing to make that sacrifice.  What about you guys?

This post needs to be stickied because it is the clearest statement about our stadium and a dome that can be said.  It is accurate and concise.  Would pie 2x if I could.  

[bbell21]

Just now, pnthrs said:

This post needs to be stickied because it is the clearest statement about our stadium and a dome that can be said.  It is accurate and concise.  Would pie 2x if I could.  

Thanks bud, it comes from the heart! lol

[pnthrs]

3 minutes ago, bbell21 said:

Thanks bud, it comes from the heart! lol

Thanks Panther bro!  The sad truth is the vocal majority (and psl majority) are the 500 level fans and most 100 level fans.  They outnumber the club fans but are out spent 5-1 maybe 10-1 maybe more!  The short term of this team is 100% BOA but the long term of this team unfortunatley will be a business decision that tends to conflict with football fans since it is a business first.   here is to hoping a middle ground can be reached.  

[Mr. Scot]

47 minutes ago, bbell21 said:

Usually a deal is made with the NFL prior to the building of a new stadium to have them host the SB.  So I don't think a new stadium would ever be built without the guarantee of hosting a Superbowl. 

Is BOA outdated? To football fans, No! It is a great open air bowl experience. 

However from a business perspective it is close to or already outdated. No profit from parking, no on field suites, and no chance of hosting certain events with an open air venue. (SB, Final 4, College National Championship, Wrestle-mania).  Most money a stadium brings in is from club and suite level, so it will come down to how many suites they can sell, and how much they can make on new club level PSL's. 

You also have to take in account that at the earliest this new stadium will open, then BOA Stadium will be at least 27 years old, at that point it will be about time for a new stadium.  Especially considering during that time period the Raiders, Rams, chargers, with the possibility of a new Bills and or Redskins stadium opening around the same season our new venue would open.

It will come down to this, do we want to keep the NFL here? As part of the democratic process, and taxpayers we have a say in that.  SD and St. Louis chose to not spend that $, which was their right, it was also the NFL's right to relocate the team to city that were willing to pay for them to be there. 

Before you get upset about leaving an empty BOA behind, as we move outside city for a top notch facility, also think about what your feelings will be when that Stadium is empty, and the team has moved to another state.

At the end of the day, all I want is an owner who wants the Panthers to win a SB as bad was we on the huddle want them to.  If that means my taxes go up, and we have to move into a gorgeous new stadium then I am willing to make that sacrifice.  What about you guys?

Nice post.

[MillionDollarCam]

Huge parking lots only make it worse logistically for fans unless it's done correctly. Anyone who has been to FedEx Field and sat through that poo show can attest to that. I still don't know why someone decided to build that stadium in a suburban neighborhood.

Unless they are building a parking lot similar to PNC Arena's then the parking issue is in fact not solved.

Personally I don't think there is a parking issue to begin with. I don't mind parking 15 blocks away and walking through uptown, it's a neat experience and to my knowledge most people enjoy it as well.

Felix Sabates and his coup are just looking to find an extra way to make a buck. Richardson assualted his employees and now Sabates and the new owners are going to assault the fans.

It's coming full circle.

[L-TownCat]

Plenty of open fields in L-town.

Convieniently located nowhere near anything and a chance to bump into James from Maiden.

[Devil Doc]

I have an honest legit question. I am not from Charlotte nor live there... However...

What is the Possibility of building Parking a few miles away.... and use a Light rail system to shuttle people to the stadium? That seems a lot cheaper, efficient, and can still keep the stadium in uptown.