Please stop with the Chudzinski talk

[TN05]

Chudzinski record by year
2007 - 10-6 (8th-ranked offense)
2008 - 4-12 (30th-ranked offense)
2011 - 6-10 (5th-ranked offense)
2012 - 7-9 (18th-ranked offense)
2013 - 4-12 (27th-ranked offense)
2015 - 8-8 (24th-ranked offense)
2016 - 8-8 (8th-ranked offense)
2017 - 4-12 (30th-ranked offense)
Total - 51-77 (avg. 19th-ranked offense)

For comparison, Shula record by year:
2013 - 12-4 (18th-ranked offense)
2014 - 7-8-1 (19th-ranked offense)
2015 - 15-1 (1st-ranked offense)
2016 - 6-10 (15th-ranked offense)
2017 - 11-5 (12th-ranked offense)
Total - 51-28-1 (avg. 13th-ranked offense)

Neither are good but Shula somehow had a better offense almost every year

[DaveThePanther2008]

You cannot deny that Hurney hired him and it is a possibility. 

[Joe the Show]

Those are just facts.  Facts can change.  My opinion will never change.

[JARROD]

Chud only flourishes with 2 tightends and a running back that can catch. 

Times where he has a top 10 offense he had those things—

when he didn’t it fell apart.

not innovative enough, I would just want him more than a Turner kid.

[L-TownCat]

A chud not auditioning for a HC job could have benefits.

[Fox007]

dumb

Shula would have the 53rd ranked offense if he coached the Browns. Would be Canadian teams and ping pong teams with better offense than him in that situation.

Don't necessarily want Chud but our defense was dookie and losing us games in his years. Cam had the lead when he left the field a lot early in his career and still took the Ls. Now we have a top 10 defense year in and out.

[Snake]

I would welcome him back. Have you forgotten this play. 

 

[TheRed]

No more retreads. No more archaic football approaches from a decade ago. Bring in fresh ideas.

[uncfan888]

  On 1/9/2018 at 7:20 PM, JARROD said:

Chud only flourishes with 2 tightends and a running back that can catch. 

Times where he has a top 10 offense he had those things—

when he didn’t it fell apart.

not innovative enough, I would just want him more than a Turner kid.

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Well we have one great tight end and a RB that can catch

[Smithers]

  On 1/9/2018 at 7:15 PM, TN05 said:

Chudzinski record by year
2007 - 10-6 (8th-ranked offense)
2008 - 4-12 (30th-ranked offense)
2011 - 6-10 (5th-ranked offense)
2012 - 7-9 (18th-ranked offense)
2013 - 4-12 (27th-ranked offense)
2015 - 8-8 (24th-ranked offense)
2016 - 8-8 (8th-ranked offense)
2017 - 4-12 (30th-ranked offense)
Total - 51-77 (avg. 19th-ranked offense)

For comparison, Shula record by year:
2013 - 12-4 (18th-ranked offense)
2014 - 7-8-1 (19th-ranked offense)
2015 - 15-1 (1st-ranked offense)
2016 - 6-10 (15th-ranked offense)
2017 - 11-5 (12th-ranked offense)
Total - 51-28-1 (avg. 13th-ranked offense)

Neither are good but Shula somehow had a better offense almost every year

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Maybe because Cam is better than any other QB he ever coached?  Coincidentally, the year he coached Cam was his best ranked offense.  After that he was stuck with cleveland and then a colts team where Luck hardly ever took the field, and when he did had no offensive line.

[Fox007]

  On 1/9/2018 at 7:33 PM, TheRed said:

No more retreads. No more archaic football approaches from a decade ago. Bring in fresh ideas.

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Ultimately this but the conversation is still pertinent, therefore, nope don't stop it's offseason and a football forum.

Have to agree here though.

[Ricky Spanish]

You are ignoring the QB's involved in all of that, and that's a big determining factor in helping determine offensive production. 

[JARROD]

  On 1/9/2018 at 7:33 PM, uncfan888 said:

Well we have one great tight end and a RB that can catch

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I agree. If we commit to getting a Shockey in here or another tightend that makes Olsen the Shockey this time, then Chud would flourish.

if we don’t he would suck.