Marty Hurney off to a good start as GM

[panthersphan]

Everyone rips Hurney, but this is Marty Hurney 2.0 folks.

 

From listening to his radio show to seeing his approach as "Interim" GM, Hurney has seemed to have learned from his past mistakes.

I actually believe Hurney is the guy for the job right now, as crazy as that sounds. But he knows this Panthers team better than anyone out there, plain and simple.

 

[Fox007]

4 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

who’s to say he didn’t?

if the case is that he didn’t do it willingly, that could lead to internal tension between ron and marty.

Nothing points to this being a Hurney move unless a potential owner has his ear and said yea ill keep you if you cut that fool.

Seriously doubt it though, 0 evidence but some people wanna just prop up their opinion like a Cowherd and a Bayless on nothing but previous arguments. 

This is a Rivera move unless he comes out like with the Norman situation and says it was the GM...0 reason for him to not take credit or blame for this. If he says  "youll have to ask the GM about it" that's how you'll know as he's done that before.

[uncfan888]

Rivera will call the plays now

[t96]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

GMs don't fire assistants. Coaches do.

This was Rivera's call.

Curious Scot how this changes your opinion of Rivera, if at all? Of course, it's long overdue, especially Dorsey. 

[TheRed]

Just now, frash.exe said:

who’s to say he didn’t?

if the case is that he didn’t do it willingly, that could lead to internal tension between ron and marty.

I'm not saying he fought this move tooth and nail, but it's clear Ron has been a staunch Shula guy. The only time Ron has fired staff here was when he was trying to save his own ass. Either way we all know Ron wouldn't be the one to suggest this move and set things in motion.

As far as tension between them, idk, he just openly suggested he wanted Hurney as GM. But if this puts some heat under Ron I'm all for it. The only time he's coached with some balls has been when his own job is at stake. And bringing in another OC who he will have input on the hiring process of directly attaches him to the success or failure of that move. I do not see Rivera surviving the ouster of 3 different OC's. He's got to right the ship, and this move seems like a step in that direction.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

The only time Ron has fired staff here was when he was trying to save his own ass.

I do think Hurney may have had a hand in this, however in response to this point, Rivera just got a contract extension, so clearly this move had nothing to do with saving his own ass.

[Fox007]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

 The only time Ron has fired staff here was when he was trying to save his own ass.

While we're doing baseless speculation off 0 evidence.

Whose to say he didn't come to Rivera and said. It's him or both of ya?

[t96]

4 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Rivera will call the plays now

Kneel, kneel, kneel, punt.

[Fox007]

1 minute ago, thomas96 said:

I do think Hurney may have had a hand in this, however in response to this point, Rivera just got a contract extension, so clearly this move had nothing to do with saving his own ass.

not really...it happened so fast it coulda been a firing in waiting like....you'll get this extension but you know what you gotta do next. And they aren't firing the OC during the playoffs.....

[frash.exe]

3 minutes ago, TheRed said:

I'm not saying he fought this move tooth and nail, but it's clear Ron has been a staunch Shula guy. The only time Ron has fired staff here was when he was trying to save his own ass. Either way we all know Ron wouldn't be the one to suggest this move and set things in motion.

As far as tension between them, idk, he just openly suggested he wanted Hurney as GM. But if this puts some heat under Ron I'm all for it. The only time he's coached with some balls has been when his own job is at stake. And bringing in another OC who he will have input on the hiring process of directly attaches him to the success or failure of that move. I do not see Rivera surviving the ouster of 3 different OC's. He's got to right the ship, and this move seems like a step in that direction.

i don’t disagree

 

and yes, there is a measure of impression that has been left on me by both ron and marty. i’m just attributing more to ron for now. shula was by far the biggest thing holding us back the last 3 years.

[RumHam]

Maybe JR was the one that pushed the bad contracts. We will truly see. If we win Super Bowl next year, we'll know what was holding us back. Old grope job.

[Seltzer]

Hurney is really trying to engage with the fan base and be willing to make the tough decisions he wouldn't 5 years ago.  Trading KB is not a move he would have made the first time around.

I'm not going to crown Hurney yet b/c there is still a lot of work to be done to stay competitive in this unbelievably tough division, but if you remove the awful contracts (and you shouldn't b/c that was a lot of his legacy during his first tenure), Hurney was very good at finding blue-chip players in Round 1 of the draft.  He also made better FA decisions than a lot of people think.  Trading for Olsen and signing Delhomme/Davis in 2003 were franchise changing moves.  But he also made some bad trades in the draft, too.

Anyway, the past is the past.  I hope Hurney continues on his current trajectory.  This year will be critical for a multitude of reasons off the field, but this draft and FA will be crucial too.

One draft can change a franchise.  Look at the Saints this year.

It's hard to overstate how crucial the draft is this year.  We have a good core, but we need an infusion of young, cheap talent badly.

[PanthersBigD]

A two year extension with a new owner looming isn't exactly a secure future. Desperate Ron is often the most dangerous and effective Ron. I think he knows it's win or go back to DC for him in the next two years. Will be interesting to see who he decides to ride with. 

[MVPccaffrey]

I have a bad feeling this guy is about to give in to fan wishes to build up the glitzy parts of the offense while history repeats itself and he neglects the defense, and the salary cap.