Butler to replace Star?

[t96]

5 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

No necessarily. 

We'll see but it's more likely we keep Norwell if we let Star walk than if we sign Star...

 

And great pic, those towels do make great diapers.

[RoaringRiot]

18 minutes ago, thomas96 said:

We'll see but it's more likely we keep Norwell if we let Star walk than if we sign Star...

 

I personally think the decision to sign Norwell will come down more to whether or not the Panthers want that much money tied up in Guards vs having anything to do with Star. Norwell is going to get the largest Guard contract in NFL history, is that really what we want to do? Can't wait for everyone to flip out on Hurney when he spends that kind of cash. 

[thefuzz]

Butler is more of a penetrator, would probably change the way we play defense a bit.

 

I think....I want Norwell a little more than Star long term.  However Star has done nothing but stay healthy, keep his mouth shut, and play damn good football....just like Norwell....hard to find those types these days.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, RoaringRiot said:

I personally think the decision to sign Norwell will come down more to whether or not the Panthers want that much money tied up in Guards vs having anything to do with Star. Norwell is going to get the largest Guard contract in NFL history, is that really what we want to do? Can't wait for everyone to flip out on Hurney when he spends that kind of cash. 

Agreed, and we could look at it like this....we have an All Pro Center (although hurt this year), and two of the best G's in football, and we still can't run the ball....what does that say?

[RoaringRiot]

24 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

(insert middle finger pic here)

Yeah, I hate the thought too, but unfortunately it's a real possibility.

I think it's happening, to be honest. 

[Dilly Dilly]

21 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

youre not familiar with the giants roster are you?

Tbh all i know is that they have monsters at DE in Tuck, Strahan, Piere Paul and Kiwanuka ... just jk, i know about Harrison other than that dont know much else about there other DT or depth

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

I think it's happening, to be honest. 

I know Voth believes Norwell is gone. And a lot of people seem to believe that Star is gone.

So yeah, very plausible.

[hepcat]

Yea I mean, Gettleman might have played the long con here, drafted Butler so he could bring Star to the Giants lol. I know that's totally impossible but I'm pretty sure that's where he signs. Giants become the second Panthers-lite in the northeast.

[RoaringRiot]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I know Voth believes Norwell is gone. And a lot of people seem to believe that Star is gone.

So yeah, very plausible.

Roll the dice moving Moton to LG and use that money on some offensive weapons for Cam? I wouldn't be upset. 

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Agreed, and we could look at it like this....we have an All Pro Center (although hurt this year), and two of the best G's in football, and we still can't run the ball....what does that say?

That All pro center is probably done with football, as he should be.  Luckily I think Larson will hold it down adequately enough until they can draft the next center sometime down the road.

I'm not as down on Matt as everyone here seems to be.  He struggled mightily at times early in the season but he did manage to show progress as the season went on.  He will do for another season until a better option presents itself.  Got to sign Norwell though because he's worth the investment.  I just wish it wasn't Hurney that was going to sign that contact.

But on the topic at hand, I think Star would be a loss to the defense but not one that will be devastating.  Losing Norwell will have a bigger impact.  If Butler can fill in then we can focus on other needs.

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That All pro center is probably done with football, as he should be.  Luckily I think Larson will hold it down adequately enough until they can draft the next center sometime down the road.

I'm not as down on Matt as everyone here seems to be.  He struggled mightily at times early in the season but he did manage to show progress as the season went on.  He will do for another season until a better option presents itself.  Got to sign Norwell though because he's worth the investment.  I just wish it wasn't Hurney that was going to sign that contact.

But on the topic at hand, I think Star would be a loss to the defense but not one that will be devastating.  Losing Norwell will have a bigger impact.  If Butler can fill in then we can focus on other needs.

I agree with you, but as a GM, I could look at that much money being tied up in the middle of our line and wonder why the hell we can't run the ball better...not saying that's how I feel, but Hurney could.

[AU-panther]

Who is easier/cheaper to replace?  Norwell or Star

Would you be able to replace either with someone on the roster?

How much to replace either in free agency?

How easy and where in the draft could you replace either?  I would think you would have to spend a 1st or 2nd to feel somewhat confident you could somewhat replace one in the draft  and even then there is a chance that person won't work out.

Personally if you can replace one of them with someone already on the roster on a cheap contract that frees up a higher draft pick and cap space.

 

[The Lobo]

2 hours ago, stirs said:

More likely Norwell to Giants

I don’t know if it’s common or I’m just noticing bc it has happened to us recently, but I’m getting tired of losing players and staff to the team our former coaches go to. 

[Jon Snow]

Just now, thefuzz said:

I agree with you, but as a GM, I could look at that much money being tied up in the middle of our line and wonder why the hell we can't run the ball better...not saying that's how I feel, but Hurney could.

We can't run the ball because the scheme is FUBAR.  They can blame the players all they want but our run game is the most predictable and antiquated in the league.  Don't listen to those mouth breathing commentators during the game.  Shula's run game is a joke.