Hurney Has A Chance To Seal His Legacy Here

[Jangler]

1 hour ago, stirs said:

New ownership might send Hurney packing.

Richardsons yes man might not have such support soon

I came.

[Car123]

2002 - turned a 1-15 team into a damn sold team. 

2003 - 11-5, Super Bowl. Exceptional free agent signings propelled us.

2004 7-9, amazing 2nd half of the season despite key stars like Steve Smith, Kris Jenkins, Stephen Davis, and Deshaun Foster going down for the year. I don't put this season on Hurney.

2005 11-5, NFC championship. Injuries killed us in the playoffs.

2006 8-8, 100% disappointing season.

2007 7-9, Delhomme had an historic start to the season, but went down and needed Tommy John surgery. Arm was never the same. Equivalent to 2015 Cam going down.

2008 12-4, terrific season. Super Bowl champs if Cam was the QB of this team.

Lockout looms and JR begins to interfere, making Hurney turn into poo.

Long story short: 2002-2008 Hurney was a damn good GM. Would take this Hurney over DG.

 

[Mr. Scot]

42 minutes ago, beastson said:

Hurney was a GM for 10 seasons. A lot of his guys he drafted were the main pieces to our SB year. All Gettleman had to do was build around it. That's his personal legacy. Whether it was bad or good, it still is a legacy. To answer your question, that guy gets credit for drafting Walter who was a huge piece in that SB win. If you name many other Bears players he drafted like Hurney did with the Panthers that was very critical in getting them there, yes that's a legacy.The thread wasn't even about that. My thread is simply saying he can seal "his" legacy by improving the WR and DB positions in the off-season. 

Have you taken a look back at the roster Hurney took to the Super Bowl?

Guess what?  A lot of the players in key roles weren't his acquisitions. And the longer Hurney was GM, the worse he got.

The suggestion that Hurney's record is anything to build on or "seal" is ridiculous.

 

[Car123]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Have you taken a look back at the roster Hurney took to the Super Bowl?

Guess what?  A lot of the players in key roles weren't his acquisitions. And the longer Hurney was GM, the worse he got.

The suggestion that Hurney's record is anything to build on or "seal" is ridiculous.

 

Did Hurney have a big role in the 2001 draft?

[beastson]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Have you taken a look back at the roster Hurney took to the Super Bowl?

Guess what?  A lot of the players in key roles weren't his acquisitions. And the longer Hurney was GM, the worse he got.

The suggestion that Hurney's record is anything to build on or "seal" is ridiculous.

 

You're getting off topic and equating legacy with success, which isn't what legacy is by the way

So what you're saying to me is Marty Hurney doesn't have a legacy with the Carolina Panthers?

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, beastson said:

You're getting off topic and equating legacy with success, which isn't what legacy is by the way

So what you're saying to me is Marty Hurney doesn't have a legacy with the Carolina Panthers?

Marty Hurney has about as much legacy as a GM as Keary Colbert does as a player.

If you wanna celebrate the one good season Colbert had or make a highlight reel of his best plays and reminisce, be my guest. Obviously that's silly, but so is suggesting that Marty Hurney's GM career has a "legacy" as something positive. 

Yes, he drafted Cam and Luke, and then he proceeded to build s-t teams around them and got himself hired.  No other team wanted him as a GM and he'd still be sitting at home if our happily soon to be former owner wasn't a dumbass.

End of story.

[GCheck]

8 hours ago, bull123 said:

Bradbury sucks....slow and no instincts for the ball

I meant the corners aren't that good, lol.  You're right, if we had decent corners Gin wouldn't have gotten that pivotal touchdown and thomas and coleman would be in check because he my opinion they aren't that good of receivers.

[Definitely Not Trolling]

6 hours ago, Car123 said:

2002 - turned a 1-15 team into a damn sold team. 

2003 - 11-5, Super Bowl. Exceptional free agent signings propelled us.

2004 7-9, amazing 2nd half of the season despite key stars like Steve Smith, Kris Jenkins, Stephen Davis, and Deshaun Foster going down for the year. I don't put this season on Hurney.

2005 11-5, NFC championship. Injuries killed us in the playoffs.

2006 8-8, 100% disappointing season.

2007 7-9, Delhomme had an historic start to the season, but went down and needed Tommy John surgery. Arm was never the same. Equivalent to 2015 Cam going down.

2008 12-4, terrific season. Super Bowl champs if Cam was the QB of this team.

Lockout looms and JR begins to interfere, making Hurney turn into poo.

Long story short: 2002-2008 Hurney was a damn good GM. Would take this Hurney over DG.

 

Long Story Short - 3 Winning seasons

[CPantherKing]

10 hours ago, GCheck said:

The corners are that good, i prefer colin jones over captain, I am starting to prefer colin over shaq as well.  We really aren't that good.  We had a stroke of luck.

Badbury gives up on plays and loses focus mid play a lot. I will never forget the image of Badbury lying next to the Saints fumble thinking the play was over once he attempted a tackle... or Badbury forgetting his assignment and drifting too deep out of his zone allowing for an easy pitch and catch for the Saints and then missing an open field tackle on a critical drive... or Badbury getting schooled by Ted Ginn Jr over and over again. 

[CPantherKing]

6 hours ago, Car123 said:

Did Hurney have a big role in the 2001 draft?

The answer is yes.

[uncfan888]

1 hour ago, CPantherKing said:

The answer is yes.

Hurney sucks

[Pantha-kun]

10 hours ago, Gin and Juice said:

First he has to get Ryan Kalil, Thomas Davis, CJ, and Stewart locked into 5year blockbuster deals like he did for Delhomme! New ownership is on the way!

This is exactly what I'm afraid of . We have 24 million in cap space but that'll dry up immediately if we just resign everyone already on the roster 

Combine overpaying aging veterans and resigning Norwell and Star, we could have practically $0.00 to spend in free agency and be right back into cap hell. 

If I was GM I'd chose Norwell to sign.  Let star go , let CJ go , let Stew go , let TD go .

That way we have a good chunk of cap space to get a couple real good free agents to actually help cam out on offense . Use the draft for defense . 

[Boxhead85]

8 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

This is exactly what I'm afraid of . We have 24 million in cap space but that'll dry up immediately if we just resign everyone already on the roster 

Combine overpaying aging veterans and resigning Norwell and Star, we could have practically $0.00 to spend in free agency and be right back into cap hell. 

If I was GM I'd chose Norwell to sign.  Let star go , let CJ go , let Stew go , let TD go .

That way we have a good chunk of cap space to get a couple real good free agents to actually help cam out on offense . Use the draft for defense . 

We have about 17 million in cap space (thinking about the players from the draft that we'll need to sign). I'd keep Stew, let the rest go. See if we can restructure Cam and Luke's contracts. Hopefully we can sign Norwell to team friendly deal with incentives.

[DaveThePanther2008]

10 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Answer this simple question.  Why were we in a position to draft Cam newton in the first place?

Don't forget JR wasn't allowing Hurney to sign Free Agents.  We didn't sign one Free Agent in 2009 or 2010 and lost 8 in that span including JP.