Hurney Has A Chance To Seal His Legacy Here

[Snake]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Answer this simple question.  Why were we in a position to draft Cam newton in the first place?

Honestly it was JR. He caused a terrible season and a inflated extensions to his close players. Thus when Dave was talking about removing Davis he was fired. 

[Dilla]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Answer this simple question.  Why were we in a position to draft Cam newton in the first place?

And he tried to trade that pick the previous year to move up for Clausen.

[beastson]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Answer this simple question.  Why were we in a position to draft Cam newton in the first place?

Cause JR fuged his franchise over

Cam literally changed our offense

Luke literally changed our defense

Norman literally changed our secondary in 2015

CJ/Hardy literally changed our pass rush in 2013

Ryan this year literally changed our offensive line performance

I can go on and on and on. I'll give him KK for for changing our defensive line in 2015. What else? Hurney had way more years here than Gettleman had. 2013 was his best draft. I'm waiting for Gettleman guys to make at-least 2 pro-bowls. His latest draft pick CMC had the best performance today, 4 drafts later

And I'm tired of people acting like Cam was a sure thing. Plenty of people advised against it. Cam was very raw. Idc who or why he drafted them, he did. So the hate needs to stop.

[stirs]

New ownership might send Hurney packing.

Richardsons yes man might not have such support soon

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, beastson said:

Cause JR fuged his franchise over

Cam literally changed our offense

Luke literally changed our defense

Norman literally changed our secondary in 2015

CJ/Hardy literally changed our pass rush in 2013

Ryan this year literally changed our offensive line performance

I can go on and on and on. I'll give him KK for for changing our defensive line in 2015. What else? Hurney had way more years here than Gettleman had. 2013 was his best draft. I'm waiting for Gettleman guys to make at-least 2 pro-bowls. His latest draft pick CMC had the best performance today, 4 drafts later

And I'm tired of people acting like Cam was a sure thing. Plenty of people advised against it. Cam was very raw. Idc who or why he drafted them, he did. So the hate needs to stop.

Nice spin.

We had the number one pick because our GM built the worst team in the league.  When he got Luke, we were the 9th worst, and so on.

Blame anyone else you want to, but we only had three winning seasons out of eleven under Hurney.

That's not a "legacy".

[Gin and Juice]

4 minutes ago, beastson said:

 

Norman literally changed our secondary in 2015

 

After being on the roster for how long? 

[beastson]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nice spin.

We had the number one pick because our GM built the worst team in the league.  When he got Luke, we were the 9th worst, and so on.

Blame anyone else you want to, but we only had three winning seasons out of eleven under Hurney.

That's not a "legacy".

Drafting Cam and Luke created a legacy. One changed the offense for many years and one changed the defense for many years. Hate all you want, that's not a spin.

[bigdog10]

2 hours ago, beastson said:

He brought us the core that got us to the SB. However that core has dried up

If he has the chance to do anything, he can seriously improve the secondary and wide receiver position for the next season on. Tough decisions has to be made and certain players have to go for that happen. There's too much talent in free agency to not dive in. Props to the guys for fighting but it's wasn't enough. Please don't let the end of the game fool you in to thinking that its good enough

Byrd and Samuel may help, but if a player is injured most of the season don't ignore the signs.

Whose money is he going to use to dive into free agency?

this place needs to familiarize itself with how cash flow works in a business transition-sell period really quick, or there are going to be a ton of dissapointed huddlers. 

[Fox007]

37 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Hurney doesn't have a legacy to seal.

Again, GMs are judged by the full team they put together, not the few best.  The rosters Hurney put together resulted in more mediocre seasons than anything else.

The best thing that can happen for us is to get a new GM.

Yea this poo is funny AF....Hurney...legacy....PAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Fox007]

23 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Nice spin.

We had the number one pick because our GM built the worst team in the league.  When he got Luke, we were the 9th worst, and so on.

Blame anyone else you want to, but we only had three winning seasons out of eleven under Hurney.

That's not a "legacy".

3-11

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

muh legacy

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, beastson said:

Drafting Cam and Luke created a legacy. One changed the offense for many years and one changed the defense for many years. Hate all you want, that's not a spin.

Literally every single argument in favor of Hurney comes down to "Well, he drafted Cam and Luke" which is an incredibly stupid way to judge a GM. 

Joe Thomas may be the best left tackle in NFL history.  Can you name the GM who drafted him?  No you can't because he was fired a long time ago.  Why?  Because the Browns were still losing even after they got Thomas.

What about the GM who acquired Barry Sanders and Herman Moore for the Lions?  Remember his name?  Is he in the Hall of Fame?  He drafted two of the best players in the league, right?  Doesn't that make him a great GM?  Eeeehhh, no.  Also fired.  Guess why?

You know who else was fired?  Marty Hurney, after drafting Cam and Luke.  Now how does that make sense?

Weird that so many of these guys keep getting fired.  I mean, so what if their teams aren't winning?  They drafted some really good players so they must be good GMs, right?  It doesn't make sense.

Wrong. It makes perfect sense because drafting great players doesn't mean jacks--t unless you build a complete winning team around them.

Hurney is not a good GM, and the only way you can argue for him is to ignore the big picture (like his win-loss record) and focus only on one narrow aspect, the logic of which is basically equal to saying "Hey, Hue Jackson coached a winning game last year so he must be a good coach, right?"

The whole notion is asinine.

[beastson]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Literally every single argument in favor of Hurney comes down to "Well, he drafted Cam and Luke" which is an incredibly stupid way to judge a GM. 

Joe Thomas may be the best left tackle in NFL history.  Can you name the GM who drafted him?  No you can't because he was fired a long time ago.  Why?  Because the Browns were still losing even after they got Thomas.

What about the GM who acquired Barry Sanders and Herman Moore for the Lions?  Remember his name?  Is he in the Hall of Fame?  He drafted two of the best players in the league, right?  Doesn't that make him a great GM?  Eeeehhh, no.  Also fired.  Guess why?

You know who else was fired?  Marty Hurney, after drafting Cam and Luke.  Now how does that make sense?

Weird that so many of these guys keep getting fired.  I mean, so what if their teams aren't winning?  They drafted good players so they must be good, right?

It makes sense because drafting great players doesn't mean jacks--t unless you build a complete winning team around them.

Hurney is not a good GM, and the only way you can argue for him is to ignore the big picture (like his win-loss record) and focus only on one narrow aspect, the logic of which is basically equal to saying "Hey, Hue Jackson coached a winning game last year so he must be a good coach, right?"

The whole notion is asinine.

Never said he was a good GM. My post was about the core guys that got us to the SB that is mostly ending including Luke and Cam that set up the offense and defense for years. That was his legacy.

[Mr. Scot]

12 minutes ago, beastson said:

Never said he was a good GM. My post was about the core guys that got us to the SB that is mostly ending including Luke and Cam that set up the offense and defense for years. That was his legacy.

So does the guy who originally drafted Walter Payton deserve a Super Bowl ring because the Bears eventually went to the Super Bowl?

Hurney's "legacy" is three winning seasons out of eleven.  He doesn't have anything to "seal".  If anything, he needs to rebuild it, and I don't buy for a minute that he's good enough to accomplish that.

[beastson]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

So does the guy who originally drafted Walter Payton deserve a Super Bowl ring because the Bears eventually went to the Super Bowl?

Hurney's "legacy" is three winning seasons out of eleven.  This crap is stupid.

Hurney was a GM for 10 seasons. A lot of his guys he drafted were the main pieces to our SB year. All Gettleman had to do was build around it. That's his personal legacy. Whether it was bad or good, it still is a legacy. To answer your question, that guy gets credit for drafting Walter who was a huge piece in that SB win. If you name many other Bears players he drafted like Hurney did with the Panthers that was very critical in getting them there, yes that's a legacy.The thread wasn't even about that. My thread is simply saying he can seal "his" legacy by improving the WR and DB positions in the off-season.