Ken Dorsey on the move?

[pantherclaw]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Your primary issue is Shula because you always blame anyone but Cam.  I agree that no one here knows how well Dorsey can coach but he get castigated here not because of him but because Cam continues to struggle. Nothing will change until Cam fixes his mechanics and stops throwing so inconsistently from one week to the next. That isn't Shula that is Cam. And you nut huggers need to stop taking up for him and see it for what it is. He needs to change not the coaches.

Amen!!!!

[ickmule]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

So the terrible Ken Dorsey everyone thinks is crap might be wanted elsewhere. Maybe just maybe Cam's problems aren't due to coaching. When will we see changes? When Cam does and practices what he has been told to do since he came into the league. Mechanics are the players responsibility once the problems have become known and he has been told what to do to fix them. After that it is up to the player to take the advice and fix it.

It’s so easy to blame Cams inadequacies on everyone else. For some reason too many feel Cam is never at fault for anything.  He’s had $hitty footwork forever. 

[Peppers90 NC]

3 minutes ago, ickmule said:

It’s so easy to blame Cams inadequacies on everyone else. For some reason too many feel Cam is never at fault for anything.  He’s had $hitty footwork forever. 

it's even easier to call you a racist than really think about reality. what a way to devalue a real issue by throwing it at anyone who says something that a simpleton cant intelligently respond to.

[LinvilleGorge]

It isn't that Cam is without faults, it's just hilarious to watch people try to act like he's the biggest issue with this offense. If all of our offensive personnel (players and coaches alike) Cam would be far and away the most highly sought after. Shula wouldn't be able to suck enough cocks to get another OC gig.

[raleigh-panther]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

So the terrible Ken Dorsey everyone thinks is crap might be wanted elsewhere. Maybe just maybe Cam's problems aren't due to coaching. When will we see changes? When Cam does and practices what he has been told to do since he came into the league. Mechanics are the players responsibility once the problems have become known and he has been told what to do to fix them. After that it is up to the player to take the advice and fix it.

There are many things that contribute to those mechanics

you don’t like Newton and the story you like to weave is that he has been taught what to do but doesn’t do it    We get it

i believe me scott is very correct when he says either the QB needs to change or the coaching needs to change 

or it could be what was just said by Kurt Warner, the entire league knows what Carolina likes to do and my two cents, after 5 years change is needed 

Newton under chudzinski with a number one receiver was a lot different then with Shula and a WR tobe named later but yeah, Newton can’t change 

[TheRed]

Let's present a scenario.

There is a starting QB that has 28 total touchdowns, over 4,000 total yards, and is his teams leading rusher on the season. Despite losing his TE for half the season and having to throw to practice squad level WR's on top of being unable to establish a run game through the RB's throughout the season he still manages to direct his team to 11 wins and a playoff berth.

Would you praise that QB for his ability to overcome significant odds or would you nitpick his game at every opportunity and claim he is above criticism because all those odds that were stacked against him and his offense finally came crashing down on everyone in the final game of the season?

[PantherCam213]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

Cam has more TDs this season than any other NFC south QB, but yeah. 

Except Brees.  

[AceBoogie]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

Let's present a scenario.

There is a starting QB that has 28 total touchdowns, over 4,000 total yards, and is his teams leading rusher on the season. Despite losing his TE for half the season and having to throw to practice squad level WR's on top of being unable to establish a run game through the RB's throughout the season he still manages to direct his team to 11 wins and a playoff berth.

Would you praise that QB for his ability to overcome significant odds or would you nitpick his game at every opportunity and claim he is above criticism because all those odds that were stacked against him and his offense finally came crashing down on everyone in the final game of the season?

Now imagine he's white. 

[AceBoogie]

Just now, PantherCam213 said:

Except Brees.  

Nope, he has more TDs than him too. 

[PantherCam213]

No, he doesn't.

[beastson]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It isn't that Cam is without faults, it's just hilarious to watch people try to act like he's the biggest issue with this offense. If all of our offensive personnel (players and coaches alike) Cam would be far and away the most highly sought after. Shula wouldn't be able to suck enough cocks to get another OC gig.

They blame Cam and say it's his mechanics, but then they say not good enough weapons, how is the offense supposed to flourish. So I'm just trying to figure out which one is it. He had 2 number 1 receivers in Smitty and KB. CMC was drafted. Well I guess KB, Smitty and CMC not good enough

But when I make a thread for an arguable top 3 WR in OBJ, people say no?

But nobody here can explain why receivers are in the same area constantly or the constant runs up the middle or when its 3rd and 2 we're throwing or the fact we can't get our number 1 receiver open

I forgot the talent, keep forgetting that

[CarolinaSock]

He's including rushing TDs in the total.

[KendrickPanther]

2 hours ago, The Huddler said:

Someone tell me why the concensus is that Ken Dorsey is horrible. 

 

 

Because Cam Newton has not improved as a passer. His footwork isn't improved. His decision making isn't improved. His accuracy isn't improved.

 

Ken Dorsey might be a ****** QB guru but Cam Newton clearly doesn't trust or respect what he's teaching because he plays with less fundamentals in the passing game than he did as a younger player. 

[Cpt slay a ho]

Cam mechanics haven’t improved, it’s either dorsey or cam at this point. Regardless this should have been addressed years ago, along with getting cam some competent wrs