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Ken Dorsey on the move?


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3 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

it's going to be comical when shula's here 20 years later and no one still wants to offer him any job elsewhere.

I wonder if it bothers him that other teams don't even think about reaching out to him? Probably not since the Panthers won't fire him.

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So the terrible Ken Dorsey everyone thinks is crap might be wanted elsewhere. Maybe just maybe Cam's problems aren't due to coaching. When will we see changes? When Cam does and practices what he has been told to do since he came into the league. Mechanics are the players responsibility once the problems have become known and he has been told what to do to fix them. After that it is up to the player to take the advice and fix it.

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3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

So the terrible Ken Dorsey everyone thinks is crap might be wanted elsewhere. Maybe just maybe Cam's problems aren't due to coaching. When will we see changes? When Cam does and practices what he has been told to do since he came into the league. Mechanics are the players responsibility once the problems have become known and he has been told what to do to fix them. After that it is up to the player to take the advice and fix it.

LOLLL @ this  

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3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

So the terrible Ken Dorsey everyone thinks is crap might be wanted elsewhere. Maybe just maybe Cam's problems aren't due to coaching. When will we see changes? When Cam does and practices what he has been told to do since he came into the league. Mechanics are the players responsibility once the problems have become known and he has been told what to do to fix them. After that it is up to the player to take the advice and fix it.

No one here knows if Ken Dorsey can coach or not. The primary issue is Shula and that's why the man can't beg his way into a head coaching interview despite having an MVP QB in 2015.

There won't be any significant changes with our offense as long as Shula is the OC.

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3 minutes ago, Cookie Lyon said:

I'll accept anybody at this point.

Dak Prescott and Tony Romo's old QB coach Wade Wilson was just let go by the Cowboys.

Wilson was the QB Coach in Chicago for the same three years when Rivera was the DC and offensive consultant Ron Turner was the OC.

If Dorsey does move on, Wilson would probably be a strong candidate to replace him.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

No one here knows if Ken Dorsey can coach or not. The primary issue is Shula and that's why the man can't beg his way into a head coaching interview despite having an MVP QB in 2015.

There won't be any significant changes with our offense as long as Shula is the OC.

Your primary issue is Shula because you always blame anyone but Cam.  I agree that no one here knows how well Dorsey can coach but he get castigated here not because of him but because Cam continues to struggle. Nothing will change until Cam fixes his mechanics and stops throwing so inconsistently from one week to the next. That isn't Shula that is Cam. And you nut huggers need to stop taking up for him and see it for what it is. He needs to change not the coaches.

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Dorsey never coached anywhere at any level before we hired him. At least when we hired Shula as the QB coach he had some kind of background in coaching.

Blaming Cam Newton for Ron Rivera's spotty ability to build a competent staff is laughable. Why do you think our special teams has been either mediocre or awful consistently even with different coaches? Rivera is a great defensive mind, but he is at times out of his depth in other areas unfortunately.

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