The Film Room Ep. 61: Saints vs Panthers - Strength vs Strength

[KaseKlosed]

Hey guys here is a great break down of the Panthers vs saints tomorrow that I personally respect and find highly accurate. 

 

Quickhits: saints rushing totals were deceiving. Ingram was avg 1 yard per carry against us. That 72 yard run was only because the refs neglected to call an obvious holding penalty that let Ingram free.  

 

Kamara was only going to have 1 TD and 30 yards if 2 of the holding plays were flagged by refs

 I do not expect for these holding calls to be neglected again.

 

I also do not expect 2 turnovers on special teams to happen again which gave the saints short field twice. 

Also our run defense is amazing! Ron has coached these guys up along with Steve wilks. We know new Orleans like a glove and their center is their key to their run game. We have to literally throw him off his path and allow the Line Backers to do their job.  This is why Wilks kept the 4-3 base defense in against the saints. This is what was required to stop their rushing attack. 

31- 28 Panthers 

[Darvinsun]

21 minutes ago, KaseKlosed said:

Hey guys here is a great break down of the Panthers vs saints tomorrow that I personally respect and find highly accurate. 

 

Quickhits: saints rushing totals were deceiving. Ingram was avg 1 yard per carry against us. That 72 yard run was only because the refs neglected to call an obvious holding penalty that let Ingram free.  

 

Kamara was only going to have 1 TD and 30 yards if 2 of the holding plays were flagged by refs

 I do not expect for these holding calls to be neglected again.

 

I also do not expect 2 turnovers on special teams to happen again which gave the saints short field twice. 

Also our run defense is amazing! Ron has coached these guys up along with Steve wilks. We know new Orleans like a glove and their center is their key to their run game. We have to literally throw him off his path and allow the Line Backers to do their job.  This is why Wilks kept the 4-3 base defense in against the saints. This is what was required to stop their rushing attack. 

31- 28 yes!

[rayzor]

27 minutes ago, KaseKlosed said:

 I do not expect for these holding calls to be neglected again.

we're playing in new orleans and for some reason the league/refs like them more than us despite bountygate.

good to know about the run D, but i don't have the same faith in the refs you do to call it fair and square.

i do think that all three phases show up stronger than they've been in a while and it will be a better game this time around. i just think the refs will play more of a factor than they should in the outcome of the game. i've got no faith that those zebras will ever call a square game.

[rayzor]

both atlanta (last week) and new orleans obviously schemed around what we do.

i don't think that's something that we make a habit of, which will always hold us back. our philosophy is to do what we're going to do and not let the other team "dictate" what we do. i just don't think that's solid strategy.

[uncfan888]

We're in the dome. There will be plenty of calls that don't go our way 

[rawrunning]

Great video. I didn't realize how much of a weak link Star is. 

[PantherBrew]

20 minutes ago, rawrunning said:

Great video. I didn't realize how much of a weak link Star is. 

Don’t think this is star specific. This is pretty normal way to attack a 4-3 defense. 

[KaseKlosed]

Star def not a weakness. However he will be more aware this time around. 

[Fox007]

Yea you do realize in the playoffs they tend to swallow the whistle even more right?

no bueno

So, sorry but no "take away this or that play". Which is always a dumb premise anyway.

[GRWatcher]

 

[KSpan]

Watching that first Kamara TD still makes me bristle - dammitall Shaq, wrap up!

[Achilles]

There is just no way that anyone can predict how tightly the refs call this game.  If the Saints hold, they very well could get away with it.  That's 3 plays of obvious holds and none of them were called.  It can't be that the refs didn't see the plays.  They either didn't see these as egregious offenses or they chose the let the Saints get away with it.  Panthers can't control that.  Hopefully, if the refs miss a call like that, they will recognize it and make up for it with a future call.

Two points:

1.  If our LBs and Safeties make tackles on those zone run plays, instead of miss tackles, that will mitigate some of the issue.  There were a lot of missed tackles in week 13 that led to those longer runs.

2.  We cannot lose the turnover battle.  We had 2 special teams TOs in week 13 that killed momentum and gave the Saints a short field.

Limiting mistakes will keep Brees off the field and give Cam and Co a chance to work.

I think we will have a more robust plan than we did against the Falcons.  It's time to go full tilt on every drive and hold nothing back.

[Jangler]

6 hours ago, Fox007 said:

Yea you do realize in the playoffs they tend to swallow the whistle even more, right?

that would literally be awesome