League regular season TV ratings down 9.7%

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

10 minutes ago, Jangler said:

I don't know. 

But...I drive a cab and 90% of my riders are black. so I hear a lot of sh!t, and one thing is, I think white America would be surprised how many black people like Trump and stopped watching the NFL because of the kneeling. small sample yes, but it is surprising.....at least according to the media and the tinderbox.

all kinds of people have all kinds of opinions so no i don't find that particularly surprising

[Frank Hollywood]

Came here expecting a bunch of snowflake right wingers blaming players kneeling. Was not disappointed. Who has time for free thinking when you're busy dangling from Trump's teet. 

[BananaGrabber]

30 minutes ago, Shonuff said:

This is true because the past few years I will watch parts or whole games on the iPhone while I'm getting oil changes, running errands with kids, etc.  It's a different media world, especially if you're moderately tech savvy.  I don't know how they track that kind of stuff cause I might only watch a quarter on regular TV, even Panthers games.

No one actually knows what you, me, or 99% of other people in this thread are watching on our TVs. The way companies calculate numbers is through extrapolating the Nielsen Box owners. You may have seen them growing up. Someone with (what looks like) two cable boxes near their TV. One is a Nielsen Box that tracks everything that person/family watches. Since they don't send one every family, the families that do have them "represent" a much larger group.

Example: Let's say 1 out of every 100 families uses a Nielsen Box. That means that family "represents" 100 families total. So when they say "14 Million people watched the Panther game", what they actually mean is "140,000 people with Neilson Boxes watched the Panther game". It's just that each Nielsen Box family represents the non box owners.

I probably did a very poor job explaining that, but feel free to research it on your own. It's actually pretty interesting.

[TheMaulClaw]

I would also like to mention that the NFL is going to see a natural viewership drop off when big market teams suck.  Outside of western NY who's watching the NFL in NYC....the Jets and Giants suck.  Who's watching on the West Coast outside of Seattle area? Who's watching in Chicago?  Also relocating teams will force viewership declines.  You don't strip San Diego and St Louis of their teams and expect those demographics to keep watching at the same level.

[Jangler]

4 minutes ago, Frank Hollywood said:

Came here expecting a bunch of snowflake right wingers blaming players kneeling. Was not disappointed. Who has time for free thinking when you're busy dangling from Trump's teet. 

snowflake sucking teats

awesome band name #10,366,093

[TheMaulClaw]

Just now, Jangler said:

snowflake sucking teats

awesome band name #10,366,093

Im a metal head who likes Call of Duty....I like the name Kill Death Ratio.

[Goondal]

2 hours ago, Jangler said:

So you are missing Star Trek Discovery?

I am

Honestly though The Orville is the first network show I have watch in probably a decade.  

[Goondal]

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/12/10/college-footballs-declining-ratings-2017-media-circus

“CBS: 4.951 million viewers, down 10% from 5.489 million in 2016.

ABC: 4.203 million, down 18% from 5.097 million.

Fox: 3.625 million, up 23% from 2.951 million.

NBC: 2.742, down 3% from 2.814 million.

ESPN: 2.155 million, down 6% from 2.300 million.

FS1: 819,000, up 4% from 743,000”

Are we supposed to believe that college football ratings are down because pro football players are kneeling?

[imminent rogaine]

Then only people I know that "boycott" because of kneeling either didnt watch the NFL to begin with or are the same ones complaining about an overturned catch in the third quarter of a chargers broncos game. 

[BananaGrabber]

21 minutes ago, imminent rogaine said:

Then only people I know that "boycott" because of kneeling either didnt watch the NFL to begin with or are the same ones complaining about an overturned catch in the third quarter of a chargers broncos game. 

Bingo. You nailed it exactly. Unfortunately the headline of "Random 73 year old man with a very mild interest in NFL decided to watch CSI: Miami on Sunday" doesn't generate quite as many clicks as "10 REASONS WHY THE NFL IS DYING!!! NUMBER 4 WILL SHOCK YOU!!!"

[LxDunn]

10 hours ago, Dr. Quest said:

Oh please, look at the social media uproar, it's not about officiating,  it's about the anti-American kneeling, look at all the videos of people burning their season tickets,  jerseys, and NFL memorbelia...Facebook alone has thousands and thousands boycotting the NFL because of the anti-American protest....wake up man!!

Anti American, what a phuck tard.

[KillerKat]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I don't think the anthem kneeling stuff was the sole reason (or even a primary reason) behind the ratings dip but it certainly didn't help. I think ratings were down similarly last year and the Presidential election year was blamed then.

Honestly, I think one of the biggest factors is officiating. I think a lot of people are getting tired of watching shoddy officiating (and shoddy rules like the constant question of what constitutes a catch) influence the outcomes of games. Literally every week games feature critical controversial calls that impact the outcomes. They say that no publicity is bad publicity but I think it's getting to the point where some are beginning to actively question the integrity of the game.

Yep. This is the reason why I stopped watching other games years ago. 

[KillerKat]

1 hour ago, Goondal said:

https://www.si.com/tech-media/2017/12/10/college-footballs-declining-ratings-2017-media-circus

“CBS: 4.951 million viewers, down 10% from 5.489 million in 2016.

ABC: 4.203 million, down 18% from 5.097 million.

Fox: 3.625 million, up 23% from 2.951 million.

NBC: 2.742, down 3% from 2.814 million.

ESPN: 2.155 million, down 6% from 2.300 million.

FS1: 819,000, up 4% from 743,000”

Are we supposed to believe that college football ratings are down because pro football players are kneeling?

college football is a joke until they get a real playoff system.

[Goondal]

26 minutes ago, KillerKat said:

college football is a joke until they get a real playoff system.

Irrelevant conclusion