League regular season TV ratings down 9.7%

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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/21960086/nfl-television-ratings-97-percent-2017-regular-season

Put that in your publicly financed dome stadium and smoke it Felix.

[LinvilleGorge]

I don't think the anthem kneeling stuff was the sole reason (or even a primary reason) behind the ratings dip but it certainly didn't help. I think ratings were down similarly last year and the Presidential election year was blamed then.

Honestly, I think one of the biggest factors is officiating. I think a lot of people are getting tired of watching shoddy officiating (and shoddy rules like the constant question of what constitutes a catch) influence the outcomes of games. Literally every week games feature critical controversial calls that impact the outcomes. They say that no publicity is bad publicity but I think it's getting to the point where some are beginning to actively question the integrity of the game.

[frash.exe]

this thread is already taking a great direction

[LinvilleGorge]

Speaking of officiating, I'm not so sure that it's actually worse than it used to be or if having multiple viewing angles in HD with the ability to zoom in and slow motion frame by frame is just magnifying the errors bug one thing seems certain, the league office handling replay reviews has been a total fuging disaster. They're doing a thoroughly awful job of that task. Replay review certainly does seem worse than ever.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Dr. Quest said:

Oh please, look at the social media uproar, it's not about officiating,  it's about the anti-American kneeling, look at all the videos of people burning their season tickets,  jerseys, and NFL memorbelia...Facebook alone has thousands and thousands boycotting the NFL because of the anti-American protest....wake up man!!

And you can find just as many videos of people supporting the protests. That's the thing about social media, people tend to friend and follow like minded individuals and groups so it leads to one hell of a biased world view. Unfortunaly, mainstream news sources have followed suit as they've evolved to try to compete with online sources. The end result is that people are able to marinate in the views that they prefer and limit their exposure to anything that challenges those views. Ironically, the "information age" is making most people dumber and it's by their own choosing.

[Zaximus]

This is because of bad officiating, bad product, boring Thursday games, and mostly, the concussion stuff that is coming out.   People are kind of getting put off by that.

The people whining about kneeling don't care about human life and will continue watching their gladiator sport, no matter what.     I doubt that's even a factor really.  

[LinvilleGorge]

 

1 minute ago, Zaximus said:

This is because of bad officiating, bad product, boring Thursday games, and mostly, the concussion stuff that is coming out.   People are kind of getting put off by that.

The people whining about kneeling don't care about human life and will continue watching their gladiator sport, no matter what.     I doubt that's even a factor really.  

I'm sure it's a factor for some. Honestly, at the peak of the protests, I found myself watching less football than usual. I was just tired of hearing about it. I didn't care who stood or kneeled or did whatevet I just wanted to watch football and I was sick of the cameras focusong on it and the announcers dwelling on it.

I think the concussion issue has definitely played a role as well. Honestly I don't think we've seen the real impact of that issue and we won't for a few more years. The biggest impact of this issue is parents actively swaying their sons away from the sport of football. This won't just impact the talent pool but it'll also impact the fan base. I'm sure many of us are fans in part because we played football as kids.

[LinvilleGorge]

5 minutes ago, Dr. Quest said:

Maybe because of this..

https://theundefeated.com/features/nfl-viewership-down-and-study-suggests-its-over-protests/

Did you actually read that article?

[LinvilleGorge]

9 minutes ago, Dr. Quest said:

While the NFL attributes the decline in ratings to the presidential race, a study conducted by Rasmussen Reports shows otherwise. Approximately 1,000 American adults participated in a telephone questionnaire on Oct. 2-3 that revealed nearly one-third (32 percent) are “less likely to watch an NFL game” due to players taking a stand and protesting the national anthem.

 

Yes I did...next question. ..lol

Keep reading... it's far from conclusive and the writer clearly admits as much mentioning that the NFL's own studies (you know, the people who actually have the most to lose and the biggest incentive to find causes for viewership decline) produced differing results vs. the smaller Nielsen study. I would think that this last Presidential election would've shown the inherent issues of small sample size polling efforts.

[jfra78]

There are many other ways to watch football that arent recognized in the ratings.  I think this has to do with the ratings drop more than anything. As more people realize they can watch for free, the ratings will continue to drop.

[LinvilleGorge]

3 minutes ago, jfra78 said:

There are many other ways to watch football that arent recognized in the ratings.  I think this has to do with the ratings drop more than anything. As more people realize they can watch for free, the ratings will continue to drop.

True. Like most things in life, it's a helluva lot more complicated than trying to drill it down to one variable. 

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Quest said:

Guess you didn't count on your own lefty fake news CNN...

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/media/nfl-ratings-season/index.html

That article provided absolutely nothing to back their speculation and the writer even said that there were likely a number of factors involved.

LOL @ me being a "lefty".

Crawl back into your safe space now where no one challenges your insulated world views, you simple minded snowflake.

[LinvilleGorge]

4 minutes ago, Dr. Quest said:

Lol!!  Just like a libtard snowflake,  start insults when you know you've been beat...typical. ...maybe you should go and hug a teddy bear, I hear it calms you whining little babies down...please, go hug your teddy bear little snowflake,  you'll be safe in your safe space...lol!!

You're hilarious in your ignorance. You posted two articles, both of which pointed out the weaknesses in their own stances and one of which referenced no supporting information at all, but because they supported your viewpoint you saw them as some sort of "proof". I guess by that thought process you think Hillary actually won the election because that's what the polls leading up to the election said. That election was a perfect case study of some of the inherent problems with polls. I'm sure at the time you were screaming "fake news" but since this particular poll supports your viewpoint you see it as the gospel. 

What you're evidently missing is that I'm not saying the protests had no impact. Quite the opposite in fact. I even said they impacted my own watching habits for a time. What I'm saying is that they likely aren't the primary factor. But, probably like most other aspects of life, you try to oversimplify matters either to conform to your pre-existing world view or because you can't conceive of the complexity of multiple variables.

 

[Cartel de Carolina]

100% due primarily bc of the protests.