2017 PFF All-Pro team

[Mr. Scot]

2 hours ago, sanjay_rajput said:

And you wanted to Remmers over Daryl Williams lol

Not really, but worth noting that Remmers is on a team with a higher seed and better odds than us for the Super Bowl.

[Ball4life]

42 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

And how does PFF knows which were his fault? Sounds subjective

Dropped passes, butt interceptions lol. Most of his interceptions have come after dropped passes by the receivers.

[mc52beast]

2 on the list but this team struggles running the ball w/o Cam...

[Ball4life]

42 minutes ago, TheRed said:

He barely throws past the LOS let alone downfield that much. Do you see the YAC his receivers go out there and get for him? It helps to have receivers capable of actually running routes and getting open, along with an OC who knows how to design plays.

Yep but those same recievers also lead the league in drop passes. And I’m not sure I’d call Sark great at designing plays to get guys open. And barely throws past the LOS?

[TheRed]

5 minutes ago, Ball4life said:

Yep but those same recievers also lead the league in drop passes. And I’m not sure I’d call Sark great at designing plays to get guys open. And barely throws past the LOS?

Well at least they aren't practice squad WR's.

Who said he was great?

I mean it should be common sense to not run plays that place multiple receivers in the same area. If an OC is capable of knowing better than that, unfortunately they are an upgrade over what we have.

The Falcons offense is predicated on shorter passes for YAC and occasionally chucking it up to Julio. Also helps they have RB's that can get more than 3 yards a carry.

[panthers55]

3 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Said it last week....Norwell is as good as gone now that DG is in the league again...and they need O Line help in the worst way.

Why would DG get him given he tries to go cheap skate on everyone. Hardly sound as if he would pay big bucks for anyone.They have 22 million in cap space counting their first 51 players. Not much unless they are going to be cutting some big name players.

[AU-panther]

1 hour ago, AceBoogie said:

And how does PFF knows which were his fault? Sounds subjective

I would guess some are passes that bounce off of receivers hands.  In the instance of a receiver running the wrong route that could possible be subjective but over the course of entire season I would guess that would pretty much even out among QBs.  That is the positive of PFF, even if they are grading something subjectively, it is in theory, applied the same to everyone.

Lets be honest, fans tend to think their players are either better or worse then they really are.  People like to complain about PFF's grading when their fandom is involved but if you remove that from the equation their rankings tend to follow conventional wisdom.  Outside of our players on the list I would say most of the other choices make sense to a lot of players.

[SmokinwithWilly]

3 hours ago, thebigcat said:

Stah, KK, Norwell, Williams, Turna

 

As a Panthers fan I am depressed as the architect of big men making you compete is now having cold cuts in NY

We're back to Eric Shelton, Jimmy Clausen, Colbert, Jarrett, Mclain, Fua, Eric Norwood, Everette Brown, Sherrod Martin, Corey Irvin, Charles Godfrey, Nate Salley days again

 

That list made me throw up in my mouth a little. 

[CarolinaNCSU]

Norwell leaving scares me.  If it's between him and Star, you keep Norwell.  If you're still struggling, you get rid of some old blood and keep Norwell. 

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Makes you wonder, what’s the bigger joke: the pro bowl or pff 

Pro Bowl. A lot of their selections, especially at the non-glamorous spots(FB, TE, OL, etc) have long been a joke. Much longer than PFF has even existed.

[The Natural]

6 hours ago, thebigcat said:

Stah, KK, Norwell, Williams, Turna

 

As a Panthers fan I am depressed as the architect of big men making you compete is now having cold cuts in NY

We're back to Eric Shelton, Jimmy Clausen, Colbert, Jarrett, Mclain, Fua, Eric Norwood, Everette Brown, Sherrod Martin, Corey Irvin, Charles Godfrey, Nate Salley days again

 

He was good at getting hog mollies, it's literally everything else he struggled at.