Breakdown of Cam's slow start

[Mr. Scot]

22 minutes ago, Peppers90 NC said:

People blame Shula for 3 receivers ending up in the same spot but I can't for my life believe someone would draw that up intentionally, so to me it is the receivers or communication to them that is allowing that to happen.

We've seen Shula draw up plays that sent two receivers to the same area for several years, and it's been called out by commentators frequently (including Aikman this past weekend).

Three in one spot may mean someone made a mistake, but it may not since two in one place is a regular occurrence.

[Cookie Lyon]

22 minutes ago, CKI said:

no one said Cam was Drew Brees.....but when was the last time Drew Brees had mike shula calling plays?

Amen.

[Mikey815]

39 minutes ago, CKI said:

no one said Cam was Drew Brees.....but when was the last time Drew Brees had mike shula calling plays?

If Shula was calling plays for brees Drew would have retired

[Wyank]

Last season Drew went 25 for 41 257 yards with 0 TDs 3 pics in week 14 vs the Bucs.  Still better than stats for Cam this past weekend but just shows the great pure passers have bad games too.  I'm sure Saints fans could come in here and explain why that game wasn't Drew's fault.  

Panthers as a team picked a bad day to have a bad day.  

[TheRed]

53 minutes ago, Mikey815 said:

When the last time Drew Brees had a passing performance like that? Can’t recall

What a joke of a fanbase this is.

Geesh.

[usmcpanthers]

1 hour ago, Mikey815 said:

When the last time Drew Brees had a passing performance like that? Can’t recall

When was the last time, Brees had jag receivers who couldnt separate or run decent routes.......

 

Every few years he had a horrible oline.

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, Mikey815 said:

When the last time Drew Brees had a passing performance like that? Can’t recall

Of course you can’t.

In 2012, Drew Brees 12th year in the league he threw 0 touchdowns and 5 interceptions in a loss to the Falcons in Atlanta.

Damn the Saints are dumb for not cutting Brees right after the game. How dare a 12 year vet throw 5 int’s in a game with 0 touchdowns.

[uncfan888]

Brees threw 5 interceptions in a game? What a bum. He definitely isn't hall of fame material

[*FreeFua*]

3 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Brees threw 5 interceptions in a game? What a bum. He definitely isn't hall of fame material

The great Tom Brady threw 4 interceptions and 0 touchdowns in a home loss to the Colts in his 7th year in the league...

What a loser 

[uncfan888]

So much for brady being a surefire first ballot. What a joke

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

What I found most concerning about this game (and others) is just how well defenses seem to be able to anticipate what we're doing.

We're predictable, very predictable, and I think we all know why.

Not for Clay Matthews at least.

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

We've seen Shula draw up plays that sent two receivers to the same area for several years, and it's been called out by commentators frequently (including Aikman this past weekend).

Three in one spot may mean someone made a mistake, but it may not since two in one place is a regular occurrence.

The QBs/receivers/coaches know these plays inside-out. Do you really think after countless practices and playbook studying and film, that this wouldn’t be addressed by any of them off the field if it was by design? I remember an article a while back talking about how approachable and open-minded Shula is to input from the players when it comes to the offense. It’s not like they would be uncomfortable to address obviously flawed designs like this if it were intentional. Even if this happens on multiple occasions, I’m still inclined to believe it was a miscommunication or an execution issue because the alternative makes much less sense.

[Peppers90 NC]

6 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

The QBs/receivers/coaches know these plays inside-out. Do you really think after countless practices and playbook studying and film, that this wouldn’t be addressed by any of them off the field if it was by design? I remember an article a while back talking about how approachable and open-minded Shula is to input from the players when it comes to the offense. It’s not like they would be uncomfortable to address obviously flawed designs like this if it were intentional. Even if this happens on multiple occasions, I’m still inclined to believe it was a miscommunication or an execution issue because the alternative makes much less sense.

yes people here truly believe Shula and Rivera are complete idiots that have somehow landed their jobs, so bad they would do something repeatedly so ignorant. you can make sensible suggestions but the majority here rather bash the coach instead of their favorite players. what's more likely to happen? a play drawn up that puts two or three players in the same spot or one or two players run the wrong route? but then again, it happens a handful times a season but here it is like it happens a handful of times every game.

my criticisms of our staff are more about adapting week to week or exposing other teams flaws and weaknesses where i feel that we have one approach that if it works great, if not, oh well thats what we do.

[Mr. Scot]

27 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

Not for Clay Matthews at least.

If Matthews hadn't opened his mouth, that play might not have occurred.

22 minutes ago, MasterAwesome said:

The QBs/receivers/coaches know these plays inside-out. Do you really think after countless practices and playbook studying and film, that this wouldn’t be addressed by any of them off the field if it was by design? I remember an article a while back talking about how approachable and open-minded Shula is to input from the players when it comes to the offense. It’s not like they would be uncomfortable to address obviously flawed designs like this if it were intentional. Even if this happens on multiple occasions, I’m still inclined to believe it was a miscommunication or an execution issue because the alternative makes much less sense.

Then why does it keep happening?

Why do we continue seeing this? Are the players all idiots?

Why have we heard announcers making mention of this for years now but it still continues?

Why so defensive players look like they're running the routes for us?

Shula and Rivera don't have to be total idiots. They just have to be not as smart as their opponents.

That's what I believe to be true.