What is Wrong With Cam Newton and Will He Fix It In the Playoffs?

[NeedSumD]

4 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

You're a troll cuz you keep going on and on and on about cam. Get over yourself. That's why they locked your idiotic thread 

You mean one of our biggest glaring weaknesses to our passing game with a career completion percentage of 58 % hell Elvis Grbac had a higher completion percentage . And he is surrounded by people that played in the 80’s and 90’s that have never won a super bowl except for Fouts who played when my Dad was watching football.   Good god man wake up and atleast admit he is part of the problem in our passing game. And stop making fuging excuses for him!!

[cardiackat88.]

I said it in another thread. Think about previous outings in Atlanta. Nakamaru or whatever his name is blowing it to lose the game. Losing the only game of the 15-1 season where everyone looked as weird as Cam did in the last game. Luke even looked terrible. Julio breaking records, and Cam getting his already super loose bell blasted at the goal line. It's kinda spooked there, I believe.

[AviationMX]

Newton just doesn't have great mechanics, when he throws high- it's going to be a long game. My theory is that he is so gifted that he can have poor fundamentals and still make good throws, as he noted this year that he can overcome coaching. But that flat fastball off his back foot, although hard to intercept, has to be in the right window at the right time to be a catch.

With Olsen's timing off and CAP not having reps- the ATL was especially hard on Newton.  After throwing into double/triple coverage he just started checking down...and I think he just gets frustrated and tried to run it himself. No one looked good in the passing game sunday but Newton is the QB and is responsible.

I used to really get on him about throwing off the back foot and the Huddle was not happy about criticizing his QBR/Pass comp/lack of touch but I think we will see something different in NOLA.

He didn't like being embarrassed and Falcons played a QB run most the game so he couldnt just will a win, so I predict he takes this week and has monster reps with the receivers/RB.  West coast baby...YAC is word...

We can't just throw away these playoff opportunities, and I really believe the entire team will dig and be sharper. There will be no one more excited for Newton is he can complete a couple of short passes in first possession than I. Newton also needs to best the Breaux Bridge Bomber in playoff wins at some point. 

Going 0-8 on a nationally television game was god awful and will never happen again. I don't know if we will win next week but Newton will have 300 yards passing. 

 

[Reynman]

29 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

Talk about a cryptic nonanswer. I bet you know a real life psychic too

Read between the lines...

 

I’ll make it simple...Cam likes to go out late

[Darvinsun]

Cam looked to be frustrated and well tried to do too much..no one was making plays but him for a while..he had the pep talk and scored a rd after that it kind of went downhill...Olsen couldn't  catch any of the high balls he usually makes, refs are going to be refs got to overcome it and CmC drop one..that seemed to just throw Cam all out of whack plus Amini not blocking worth a poo. This team has no closenes,  its no where near 2015. Injuries and scrubs is all we have. 

[juliosantos]

our receivers are trash take away cam and we have the worst offense in the nfl

[Snake]

Why is Cam Newton missing throws? It's it Turner missing? Is it because Amini isn't Good? Is it because he has no time or WRs? Naw can't be he's just a bum. 

[Udogg]

22 hours ago, AviationMX said:

Newton just doesn't have great mechanics, when he throws high- it's going to be a long game. My theory is that he is so gifted that he can have poor fundamentals and still make good throws, as he noted this year that he can overcome coaching. But that flat fastball off his back foot, although hard to intercept, has to be in the right window at the right time to be a catch.

With Olsen's timing off and CAP not having reps- the ATL was especially hard on Newton.  After throwing into double/triple coverage he just started checking down...and I think he just gets frustrated and tried to run it himself. No one looked good in the passing game sunday but Newton is the QB and is responsible.

I used to really get on him about throwing off the back foot and the Huddle was not happy about criticizing his QBR/Pass comp/lack of touch but I think we will see something different in NOLA.

He didn't like being embarrassed and Falcons played a QB run most the game so he couldnt just will a win, so I predict he takes this week and has monster reps with the receivers/RB.  West coast baby...YAC is word...

We can't just throw away these playoff opportunities, and I really believe the entire team will dig and be sharper. There will be no one more excited for Newton is he can complete a couple of short passes in first possession than I. Newton also needs to best the Breaux Bridge Bomber in playoff wins at some point. 

Going 0-8 on a nationally television game was god awful and will never happen again. I don't know if we will win next week but Newton will have 300 yards passing. 

 

This.  I think because he gets away with poor mechanics all the time, and coaching seems to not want to "force" him to correct them, we will always get this level of inconsistency.  His QB statistics are pretty much the definition of inconsistency.  1 game good followed by ok/bad/mediocre game.  

After a bad game, it seems like he really focuses and seems to correct whatever mistakes there were.  Then it's back to inconsistency.   It's like a golf swing in a way, sometimes you can hit great shots with a bad golf swing.  However you come out the next day and can't hit the fairway even though you feel that nothing has changed. 

Hopefully this offseason , with no injuries or Nickelodeon shows, or whatever he can firmly focus on mechanics.  Get those ingrained and have a more consistent year.  The talent is undeniable, the consistency is not. 

[Carl Spackler]

He also has a second-round pick playing like a fourth-round pick and a bunch of UDFAs at WR. Doesn't make it easier

[Udogg]

4 minutes ago, Snake said:

Why is Cam Newton missing throws? It's it Turner missing? Is it because Amini isn't Good? Is it because he has no time or WRs? Naw can't be he's just a bum. 

Or maybe, just maybe possibly ... he is mechanically unsound. And due to his tremendous athletic ability and arm strength can get away from being mechanically sound.   However when you add, poor play around him, the mechanical deficiencies get magnified and he has poor to inconsistent outings.  

Best QB we have ever had without a doubt, but he has "correctable" flaws.  If he was only inaccurate on plays where he is getting hit /pressured then yeah, it's everyone elses fault.  But when you aren't getting pressured and are still inaccurate (mainly high throws, mainly due to footwork), then it's Cams fault. 

Everyone on the team share the blame. From HC on down.  But Cam deserves some of the blame.  It's not calling cam a bum, not saying we should draft someone else.  Not saying we should put in DA.  Just saying Cam deserves a large part of the blame because he is the one throwing the ball.  Yes Amini deserves blame, yes the WR's weren't getting open.  That makes it even more important to make completions when the opportunity is there. 

Why everyone is getting angry about calling out Cam for bad play is funny.  I think due to the made up unnecessary criticism of Cam earlier , people take any criticism as an attack.   It's not.  As a Panther fan I look at the team, when Cam plays well , he gets the credit and should.  When he plays bad, he should be called out for it. 

 

[Peppers90 NC]

47 minutes ago, Udogg said:

Or maybe, just maybe possibly ... he is mechanically unsound. And due to his tremendous athletic ability and arm strength can get away from being mechanically sound.   However when you add, poor play around him, the mechanical deficiencies get magnified and he has poor to inconsistent outings.  

Best QB we have ever had without a doubt, but he has "correctable" flaws.  If he was only inaccurate on plays where he is getting hit /pressured then yeah, it's everyone elses fault.  But when you aren't getting pressured and are still inaccurate (mainly high throws, mainly due to footwork), then it's Cams fault. 

Everyone on the team share the blame. From HC on down.  But Cam deserves some of the blame.  It's not calling cam a bum, not saying we should draft someone else.  Not saying we should put in DA.  Just saying Cam deserves a large part of the blame because he is the one throwing the ball.  Yes Amini deserves blame, yes the WR's weren't getting open.  That makes it even more important to make completions when the opportunity is there. 

Why everyone is getting angry about calling out Cam for bad play is funny.  I think due to the made up unnecessary criticism of Cam earlier , people take any criticism as an attack.   It's not.  As a Panther fan I look at the team, when Cam plays well , he gets the credit and should.  When he plays bad, he should be called out for it. 

 

Cam has similar if not the same mechanics issue he had as a rookie. Either coaches haven't worked on that(kinda find that hard to believe but no impossible), he hasn't put the effort(would hate to find out if true) or he is just not capable of improving his footwork which could be labeled as the worst in the league. He has never been an elusive in the pocket QB, almost clumsy, just to see freaking Meg Ryan escape about 5 sacks on Sunday by making small movements was frustrating.

The next problem is ball placement, while receivers do drop a number of balls, and some also bail him out with great catches, he rarely throws to a spot that opens a receiver up, rather he appears to wait until a receiver is open. What that does is limit yards after the catch.

Lastly, and maybe most importantly is the possibility of leadership skills(or lack thereof). Now I loved seeing him on the sideline rallying the offense, may be the first time I recall that ever happening and would love to see more of that. But I've also heard he isn't as well liked as we want to believe but I am not saying that with certainty, but how he likes to isolate himself on celebrations sometimes doesn't make me doubt it that much.

All that said he has the physical tools to overcome those issues but it is impossible to do every week, which explains his erratic play week-to-week.

[Reynman]

Cam is a tremendous talent...we all know that.

 

With that being said, if you do not work on your craft (because you know you are great) or you do not come each day prepared (without being tired, or worse, from being out late) you are not going to be the best version of you.  They shipped off his running partner (KB) and it worked for a bit...

 

If Cam want’s to be remembered as great, now is the time to get this sh@t together...

[juliosantos]

we have 3 starting receivers that wouldnt be on teams practice squads . almost every teams back up receivers are better than our starters

[TheRed]

Heyyyyy, another let's bash Cam thread.