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Rod Chudzinski


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15 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

this suggests we’re more likely to go 15-1 than 6-10

in general, teams have a higher probability of going 6-10 than 15-1. there are multiple variables to this, it has a lot to do with that there are simply more scenarios where a team can finish 6-10 than ones where they can finish 15-1. 

if you want someone to show you a formula for this, go on r/theydidthemath and ask them.

exactly.... the limited data sets prove this... That's the point of using 2 season before 2015 and 2 seasons after. There are no longer other variables required. 

The point being within the data sets provided by Electro's initial inaccurate argument, within a 5 season period 15-1 was an outlier. Mathematically that is incorrect. 

Now, we what you are proclaiming... that math has been done and the range is 7-7.5. Vegas makes tons on these averages. 

Ultimately, you and I are saying the same thing, except i am isolated to one individuals irrational comment.

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1 hour ago, electro's horse said:

That’s not true at all. 

No gm was more willing to trade around in the draft than hurney. 

He also power moved the poo out of John fox.

He had a habit of doubling down on his own players, and there are plenty of stones to throw at him. 

But saying “he doesn’t have balls” demonstrates you don’t know what you’re talking about. 

totally agreed. the problem was he was too confident in his ability to wheel and deal which JR had to put the kibosh on a couple times in 2010. i always thought hurney had a gambling problem and the draft was his game of choice.

i do think he did a good job of looking at first round candidates, but i think anything after that was more based on whims and cool stories from a PR perspective.

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4 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Fair enough.... Still Gettleman signed the contract.

Which is pretty much all he'd have done.

Assistants are chosen by head coaches, not general managers. That's pretty much true all over the league other than in a few occasional exceptions.

If you remember when reporters asked about Richard Rodgers, Gettleman said "that's a Ron question." He pointed out that he could make suggestions but coaching staff decisions belonged to Rivera.

Shula's promotion was Rivera's decision, not Gettleman's.

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1 hour ago, uncfan888 said:

Doesn't fit the narrative 

He's actually right.

Plenty of coaches have come up with schemes and ideas that looked like they'd be unbeatable. But then someone figures out how to beat them, and they're not smart enough to counter it.

Buddy Ryan was a prime example. He came up with the 46 defense and everyone thought they'd be dominant for years, but teams learned how to counter it and Ryan didn't have an answer. That's why the Bears who looked unbeatable in 85 never got back to the Super Bowl after that.

Likewise, Shula came up with a great scheme that worked well...for a year.

After the Falcons and the Broncos figured out how to beat it, it was never the same. And just like Ryan, Shula doesn't have enough creativity to answer back.

Belichick counters adjustments on an annual basis. That's true genius. Guys like Todd Haley do the same.

Basically, you're not a real genius if your scheme only works for one year. If you can't adjust every year to keep it fresh, you're not that good.

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No way Ron would bring Chud back. He has the little puppet yes man he wants in Shula. A guy who knows he has no other options so he'll let Ron dictate a clock chewing ball control style on him. Not necessarily trying to defend Shila and some of his idiotic calls but I absolutely think the majority of the blame on the painfully slow offensive pace and valuing time of possession over points is 100% due to Ron and his defense first mentality.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He's actually right.

Plenty of coaches have come up with schemes and ideas that looked like they'd be unbeatable. But then someone figures out how to beat them, and they're not smart enough to counter it.

Buddy Ryan was a prime example. He came up with the 46 defense and everyone thought they'd be dominant for years, but teams learned how to counter it and Ryan didn't have an answer. That's why the Bears who looked unbeatable in 85 never got back to the Super Bowl after that.

Likewise, Shula came up with a great scheme that worked well...for a year.

After the Falcons and the Broncos figured out how to beat it, it was never the same. And just like Ryan, Shula doesn't have enough creativity to answer back.

Belichick counters adjustments on an annual basis. That's true genius. Guys like Todd Haley do the same.

Basically, you're not a real genius if your scheme only works for one year. If you can't adjust every year to keep it fresh, you're not that good.

that was ultimately the downfall of fox. he did something that just happened to get him to the superbowl within just a couple years of his becoming HC and he was reluctant to change that "winning formula" or move away from the personnel he had in getting there. you saw that throughout his tenure. for instance, that big loss to the cards in the playoffs...we had beat them earlier in the year. the only difference was that the cards adapted to what we did, but fox felt no need to change what they did in facing the cards because it worked before.

adapt or die...every year, every game, every half of play, every drive.

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7 minutes ago, uncfan888 said:

You will never hear me call Shula a genius, Mr. Scot haha

And you'd be right not to.

Basically, he copied what the Eagles did with Randall Cunningham and what the Falcons did with Michael Vick, throwing in the read option as a wrinkle.

The Falcons offense was super run-heavy primarily because Vick couldn't pass for s--t. Ours in 2015 was super run heavy because Ron Rivera wanted it that way.

The Eagles (again with Rivera mentor Buddy Ryan) based their philosophy around the notion that if Randall Cunningham could make two or three big plays a game, Ryan's defense would take care of the rest. Sounds pretty much like what we're doing now with Cam, doesn't it?

Those offenses won a lot of regular season games, but folded in the playoffs.

That's probably what we're about to do too.

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1 minute ago, rayzor said:

that was ultimately the downfall of fox. he did something that just happened to get him to the superbowl within just a couple years of his becoming HC and he was reluctant to change that "winning formula" or move away from the personnel he had in getting there. you saw that throughout his tenure. for instance, that big loss to the cards in the playoffs...we had beat them earlier in the year. the only difference was that the cards adapted to what we did, but fox felt no need to change what they did in facing the cards because it worked before.

adapt or die...every year, every game, every half of play, every drive.

And that's Rivera too.

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oh...and no way do i want chud back here.

brilliant mind, but totally oblivious to what is going on on the field. he is too reliant on his ability to plan pregame, just like shula. chud never paid attention to what the defenses were doing or even what personnel he had on the field when he called plays. worse yet was his ability to listen to anyone, especially players.

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Just now, rayzor said:

oh...and no way do i want chud back here.

brilliant mind, but totally oblivious to what is going on on the field. he is too reliant on his ability to plan pregame, just like shula. chud never paid attention to what the defenses were doing or even what personnel he had on the field when he called plays. worse yet was his ability to listen to anyone, especially players.

Basically believes he's smarter than he really is, and is therefore left confused as to how to respond when his plan doesn't work.

We've got enough of that on staff already.

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