Mike Shula Q&A

[ras977]

23 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It isn't Shula it is Cam. He often throws late over the middle and has no touch on the ball. He tries to rocket passes which when tipped are easy interceptions. Since there are more defenders in the middle of the field the chance of an errant throw turning into an interception increases. An OC doesn't ignore the middle of the field for no reason, that is stupid to think. Look at defenders next time on Cam's passes over the middle. They undercut routes knowing Cam can't loft the ball over them with touch and the safeties hang back waiting for the frequent tipped balls. He throws every pass the same and most times wait too long which gives defenders time to catch up and recover on routes. We use the sidelines because the players usually have one defender there and errant throws sail harmlessly out of bounds. This offense is built around Cam strengths and they aren't passing over the middle.

Its called "touch ".

[Castavar]

13 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Bringing him in as head coach has no bearing on his value as OC. Totally different jobs and skill sets. You clearly have no idea what these jobs entail or you wouldn't keep bringing up this stupid logic.

Again, stop the BS. Great OCs and DCs get a chance at head coach regardless of whether they are qualified for it or not. It says a lot about Shula that he doesn't even get a call for an interview. Again, it's UNHEARD of for a OC of a 15-1 team coming off a superbowl with the #1 scoring offense to not even get considered as a head coach. Teams know Shula sucks (just ask Broncos players). He wouldn't even get another OC job if he were to get canned. You are going way out of your way to validate such a terrible OC. I can't believe there would STILL be people defending Shula after yet another pathetic offensive season, but here you are. Unbelievable.

[panthers55]

8 minutes ago, ras977 said:

Its called "touch ".

Exactly, like I said in line 3 of my post he doesn't have any.

[ras977]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Exactly, like I said in line 3 of my post he doesn't have any.

Missed it--absolutely right on,

[ras977]

42 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

It isn't Shula it is Cam. He often throws late over the middle and has no touch on the ball. He tries to rocket passes which when tipped are easy interceptions. Since there are more defenders in the middle of the field the chance of an errant throw turning into an interception increases. An OC doesn't ignore the middle of the field for no reason, that is stupid to think. Look at defenders next time on Cam's passes over the middle. They undercut routes knowing Cam can't loft the ball over them with touch and the safeties hang back waiting for the frequent tipped balls. He throws every pass the same and most times wait too long which gives defenders time to catch up and recover on routes. We use the sidelines because the players usually have one defender there and errant throws sail harmlessly out of bounds. This offense is built around Cam strengths and they aren't passing over the middle.

Ever wonder why we don't run screens ?

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Again, stop the BS. Great OCs and DCs get a chance at head coach regardless of whether they are qualified for it or not. It says a lot about Shula that he doesn't even get a call for an interview. Again, it's UNHEARD of for a OC of a 15-1 team coming off a superbowl with the #1 scoring offense to not even get considered as a head coach. Teams know Shula sucks (just ask Broncos players). He wouldn't even get another OC job if he were to get canned. You are going way out of your way to validate such a terrible OC. I can't believe there would STILL be people defending Shula after yet another pathetic offensive season, but here you are. Unbelievable.

It says people didn't want him as a head coach. It says nothing about what he is doing now. Honestly I don't think I would want him as head coach. Not fiery enough and not a people person which is a critical skill for a head coach as far as I can see. Temperament wise OCs are usually less emotional and tactical and let's face it we want our head coaches to get fired up and inspire players. And that is just one of a cornucopia of differences in duties and temperament among other things that could make Shula a decent OC and not a good head coach. Can we stick to the discussion and avoid these "throw  everything in but the kitchen sink" arguments. 

[panthers55]

11 minutes ago, ras977 said:

Ever wonder why we don't run screens ?

True, his behind the line passing completion was one of the lowest of anyone. CMC has helped that. Plus our tackles and guards struggle to get in space and handle a quicker more athletic linebacker or DE so the play goes nowhere. 

[Darvinsun]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

It isn't Shula it is Cam. He often throws late over the middle and has no touch on the ball. He tries to rocket passes which when tipped are easy interceptions. Since there are more defenders in the middle of the field the chance of an errant throw turning into an interception increases. An OC doesn't ignore the middle of the field for no reason, that is stupid to think. Look at defenders next time on Cam's passes over the middle. They undercut routes knowing Cam can't loft the ball over them with touch and the safeties hang back waiting for the frequent tipped balls. He throws every pass the same and most times wait too long which gives defenders time to catch up and recover on routes. We use the sidelines because the players usually have one defender there and errant throws sail harm c.f.lessly out of bounds. This offense is built around Cam strengths and they aren't passing over the middle.

Well even if that is the reason its still DUMB on the coaching staff part...i have seen Cam throw over the middle and have success. He does not sail passes every time. He is a rhythm passer and if Shula was truly doing what works for Cam ..we wouldn' have plays that are working not seen again for plays that don' t work.. Or players that are playing well taking out of the next series for someone who is not producing.. Shula knows nothing about rhythm or successful plays or personnel...As soon as it starts clicking he disrupts it with stupid playcalling and personnel .

[Darvinsun]

20 hours ago, weyco2000 said:

Serious question, not trying to be an ass. If Shula is calling these god awful plays, why doesn’t Cam check out? 

Because the options he gives him suck too. The l personnel on the field probably does not match with the plays. Cam said it himself he takes what the of gives him and does his best to make it work..