Mike Shula Q&A

[BuckNaked]

6 minutes ago, weyco2000 said:

However, you’re about to face a sh1tstorm 

No worries,  a shitstorm I can handle.  Outright hypocrisy I can't.  If I get banned over calling out someone that obviously can't see their own biased then fug this site.   When you tell people you are racists because blah blah blah and then you support sexual offenders to own the team yeah its time to look at yourself, not others.  There are a lot of posters accusing fans of being racists, all the "racist's" people on here  hate Cam.     Maybe I'm naive but,  Is there a double standard?  Does CMC suck,  some days?  Like Sunday where he clearly fuged up, yes the fug he did?  Did Jonathan Stewart fug up during that first Atlanta game?  Hell to the yes he did?   Did Cameron F'ING NEwton F' it up yes, maybe once or twice.    Probably more than TD a guy who as an old ass dude is getting suspensions because he sees things happenings and  will still pop a mfer legally at least when he came in the league it was legall.   No One, and I mean No one hated Steve Smith in Charlotte.   He Literally punched his teammates and no one cared or Moose,  you never have ever heard anything bad about Moose.   I guess you may say that they don't play qb, your right they don't play qb no one in our fanchise has ever made 20 million a year. Except for who.  Cam Newton, our ride or die guy.  We win or we loose by him.  I'd love him to k33P W!nn!Ng!

 

 

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[Castavar]

6 hours ago, panthers55 said:

Maybe since all three of them watch film practice and games all week and know what they drew up and how well it was executed. If they are all on the same page it is either a conspiracy or just maybe they are right and it is the players fault many times. Only players are on the field so they have to take a big part of the blame rightly so.

Don't give me that bullsh*t. I have yet to ever hear Shula or Rivera say they need to do a better job at putting our players in a better position. I have yet to hear them say THEY made mistakes. It's always "if the players just executed better". I would buy the "players didn't execute" point if it hasn't been an ongoing problem for 5 years now. Are the Rams a juggernaut on offense this year because the players finally starting executing better, or was it because a coach that actually knows what an offense is came along and implemented a good scheme? Shula can blame execution all he wants, it's his sh*t scheme and playcalling that is the bottleneck.

[DaveThePanther2008]

Who is our resident letter writer?

I would love to see a formal letter from the fans to Marty Hurney about our illustrious OC and how for the past 2 seasons we have seen nothing but crap.  How he gets reprieve after reprieve when the issue is Shula not the injuries, not the players but the stupid ass play calling.

 

[TheRed]

[raleigh-panther]

On 1/1/2018 at 3:36 PM, Cookie Lyon said:

1.) Thoughts on loss to Atlanta: “We didn’t do a good enough job, and they did a good job. A little bit off. Got into some long-yardage situations, and as all of you know, you want to make some first downs on first and second down. But the positive was I love the drive at the end of the second quarter. We responded. I thought all the way through until the end that we had a chance to find a way to pull it out. But we’re moving on. We’re one of 12 teams. We want our players thinking the same way. We’re going to learn from the stuff from today, how we can all be better because of it.”

2.) On how Cam Newton can be better: “It’s a combination of everything. He could have been better at times, but he’s one of eleven guys. Guys are down because we had a chance to go win a game. But they are really excited about (the playoffs)… We’ve just got to hone in on these guys. We’ve seen them twice already and we know we’re going to have to play better to beat them. We feel like we’ve got the guys that can go out there and give us a chance to do that.”

3.) On throwing into tight windows and making contested catches: “Especially this time of year we are going to have to make tight throws and we’re going to have to make contested catches. We’re going to have to stand in the pocket – all the things are going to get magnified. Yes to all those things. We’ve had moving parts all year, we’ve had guys playing different positions and maybe sometimes not getting the reps that we’d like them to get prior to the game. But I think for the most part we’ve done a pretty good job of that. Yesterday we didn’t.”

4.) On playing a team for third time and if offense or defense has advantage: “It’s been a long time since I can remember doing this. I don’t know. On paper you’d say defense, but when you have prepare you have to look at those two games and obviously look at some other games too. Look at the good stuff, look at the stuff that wasn’t good and why. It’s a little like basketball when teams are playing in a series and the little adjustments that they make. It’s that kind of mentality… Each possession is extremely important. You don’t know how many you’re going to get. Sudden death football, so it’s exciting.”

5.) On Christian McCaffrey’s rookie year: “We don’t know what his ceiling is yet, which is a good thing. He’s done a lot of good things for us and we need to continue to build off those. The things that maybe he hasn’t done quite as well? He’ll do well, I truly believe that. Just fitting him and giving him the chance to help us win, but not obviously trying to get him the ball every play. We have other guys besides him that we feel are going to make plays for us. Really, that’s where Cam comes into it. We get Cam Newton playing fast, we’re a dangerous offense. When he spreads the ball around that’s always been a good thing for us. The biggest thing is just making sound decisions and making them on time. He has the ability to get the ball there accurately as well, and that helps guys like Christian, and in turn, he helps him.”

6.) On how to get Newton playing fast: “You just make sure we’re well-prepared and he feels really good about everything that we’re doing – any little adjustment potentially. Also, making sure that those guys during the week know exactly what he sees, how he envisions any little adjustments. That’s where all of that preparation during the course of the week comes in, and you can’t get that on the field. That’s where all the meeting times and walk-throughs come in.”

7.) On importance of running the ball: “We’ve won a lot of games when we’ve had a good rushing average and good rushing efficiency, but I would say that’s going to come with balance and is more important with balance. If we’re a balanced team and not predictable – and we’re not making unforced errors – that leads to us running the football well and hopefully leads to us winning the football game.”

8.) On Greg Olsen having one catch on 10 targets versus Falcons: “They did a good job on a couple of things, and we were just a little bit off on some others. But to me that’s not a concern. Unfortunately it wasn’t good enough yesterday, but we feel like that’s doing to a good combination for us as well.”

9.) On facing rookie corner Marshon Lattimore for the first time: “He’s pretty good. He’s talented. He’s long. He plays with that confidence that the good ones play with.”

 

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Mike-Shula-QA/7e4c4458-5127-4101-9608-d60b3a0ee7db

And this is why he should be fired

this isn't pop warner, it's the pros

[PghPanther]

I have seen Cam since day one as a Donovan McNabb version 2.0.................big, somewhat agile with his feet and completes enough passes to get a team into the playoffs in the right condition..........even to a superbowl..............but like McNabb the results will be the same.

You can't be a skilled running QB without being a sharp pocket passer first to be able to capture a SB victory.......I don't see Cam as the latter.............

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, Castavar said:

Don't give me that bullsh*t. I have yet to ever hear Shula or Rivera say they need to do a better job at putting our players in a better position. I have yet to hear them say THEY made mistakes. It's always "if the players just executed better". I would buy the "players didn't execute" point if it hasn't been an ongoing problem for 5 years now. Are the Rams a juggernaut on offense this year because the players finally starting executing better, or was it because a coach that actually knows what an offense is came along and implemented a good scheme? Shula can blame execution all he wants, it's his sh*t scheme and playcalling that is the bottleneck.

Then you clearly aren't listening to Rivera's pressers if you think he doesn't say frequently that everyone needs to do a better job including the coaches and players. He is big on accountability across the board. But he isn't going to blame himself or coaches for execution errors that are evident in film study on Monday after the game.

You are full of BS claiming it is playcalling when you have no idea what play was called and how it was changed by Cam. Then you have no idea if everyone did their job and executed the play as it was drawn up. The people who do know that are the coaches and players who keep talking about execution much more than play calling. In fact Olsen came out and said the game he sat against the Saints that the playcalling was not the problem the execution was. And no he didn't have to say that or defend Shula. Players who don't like the play calls won't actively criticize but they don't defend it either. Olsen is a straight shooter so I find him credible.

 

[L-TownCat]

I really really really reeeeeaaaally don’t like Mike Shula.

[panthers55]

7 hours ago, DaveThePanther2008 said:

Who is our resident letter writer?

I would love to see a formal letter from the fans to Marty Hurney about our illustrious OC and how for the past 2 seasons we have seen nothing but crap.  How he gets reprieve after reprieve when the issue is Shula not the injuries, not the players but the stupid ass play calling.

 

The problem is most knowledgeable folks praise his schemes and complexity and don't think his playcalling sucks outside of the huddle and casual fans. So the letter is useless if the contentions in the letter are not universally agreed upon. And they clearly aren't.

[panthers55]

4 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

And this is why he should be fired

this isn't pop warner, it's the pros

He is dumbing it down for fans who wouldn't have a clue what he was talking about if he talked like he did in meeting rooms. If you find this juvenile this is a commentary on the fan base's knowledge not his.

[raleigh-panther]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

He is dumbing it down for fans who wouldn't have a clue what he was talking about if he talked like he did in meeting rooms. If you find this juvenile this is a commentary on the fan base's knowledge not his.

I get that but from what I see on the field his players don't get it either 

I have also read other knowledgeable NFL writers who question what he is doing

Either Newton does not fit it, or the players don't fit it, or the rest of the world knows the calls before they are executed  

I totally agree with Jeremy Igo and some of the writers from the roaring riot and the NFL films on their analysis. The latest being Shula's lack of use of the middle of the field

we can all argue for days on this but to go forward my strong belief is Newton needs coaches who aren't his buddies and schemes that don't put him into miracle mode on 3rd down plus offensive playmakers and no, I don't see Christian as one ..not with this staff

[Castavar]

3 hours ago, panthers55 said:

The problem is most knowledgeable folks praise his schemes and complexity and don't think his playcalling sucks outside of the huddle and casual fans. So the letter is useless if the contentions in the letter are not universally agreed upon. And they clearly aren't.

Yeah, that's why teams are lining up to sign him as their head coach right? If all these "knowledgeable" folks think he's such an offensive genius, then why is it that even after out 2015 season where we had the #1 offense he still didn't get a call for a head coaching position (which is unheard of)? Why is it that football analysts (who study film for a living) and commentators on game day point out our vanilla routes and playcalls? Hmm, me thinks knowledgeable teams know Cam Newton is the only reason this offense works, and not the other way around. You can try and spin it however you want, Shula is and has always been a terrible OC. His history speaks for itself.

[panthers55]

11 minutes ago, raleigh-panther said:

I get that but from what I see on the field his players don't get it either 

I have also read other knowledgeable NFL writers who question what he is doing

Either Newton does not fit it, or the players don't fit it, or the rest of the world knows the calls before they are executed  

I totally agree with Jeremy Igo and some of the writers from the roaring riot and the NFL films on their analysis. The latest being Shula's lack of use of the middle of the field

we can all argue for days on this but to go forward my strong belief is Newton needs coaches who aren't his buddies and schemes that don't put him into miracle mode on 3rd down plus offensive playmakers and no, I don't see Christian as one ..not with this staff

It isn't Shula it is Cam. He often throws late over the middle and has no touch on the ball. He tries to rocket passes which when tipped are easy interceptions. Since there are more defenders in the middle of the field the chance of an errant throw turning into an interception increases. An OC doesn't ignore the middle of the field for no reason, that is stupid to think. Look at defenders next time on Cam's passes over the middle. They undercut routes knowing Cam can't loft the ball over them with touch and the safeties hang back waiting for the frequent tipped balls. He throws every pass the same and most times wait too long which gives defenders time to catch up and recover on routes. We use the sidelines because the players usually have one defender there and errant throws sail harmlessly out of bounds. This offense is built around Cam strengths and they aren't passing over the middle.

[panthers55]

11 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Yeah, that's why teams are lining up to sign him as their head coach right? If all these "knowledgeable" folks think he's such an offensive genius, then why is it that even after out 2015 season where we had the #1 offense he still didn't get a call for a head coaching position? Why is it that football analysts (who study film for a living) and commentators on game day point out our vanilla routes and playcalls? Hmm, me thinks knowledgeable teams know Cam Newton is the only reason this offense works, and not the other way around.

Bringing him in as head coach has no bearing on his value as OC. Totally different jobs and skill sets. You clearly have no idea what these jobs entail or you wouldn't keep bringing up this stupid logic.