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Dave Gettleman Was A Terrible GM.

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1 hour ago, Doc Holiday said:

Brah, have you been on here lately?

The thread where the guys were freaking out that we werent signing a WR that the Ravens only looked at and didnt sign themselves is easily top 10 for the year. this one doesnt even register.

Yeah, but I'm use to the "Why aren't they signing anybody week 17, our front office sucks balls" routine, and it's older than the "your grandma's crusty underwear" joke everyone learns when are just a little kids. 

So it doesn't register that high on my list.

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7 hours ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

Hurney Positives

Nice guy, so I hear

Good at drafting top 10 picks

Hurney Negatives

Drafting anything after 10th

Teams are consistently terrible, leading to top 10 draft picks

Contract negotiations

Free agents

Filling depth

Hard core smokers voice

Probably doesn't have a GED

Has a creepy uncle vibe

 

 

You know Davis, Stewart, Beason, Gamble, Williams weren't top 10 picks?

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Terrible, no. Great? no 
He was OK. imo he wasn't great with people which is kind of a big when your title has the word "manager" in it. I also think he made rash decisions  based on emotions, negative emotions but emotions none the less. He was pretty good with the cap and was average at the draft.

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19 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Oh so now it's because Newton wasn't good enough until he got experience.

You really do embarrass yourself on here.

Not what I said. 

How many rookie or 2nd year quarterbacks lead their team to deep playoff runs?  Roethlisberger and Brady are rare cases. 6 wins with a rookie qb was a solid achievement at the time.

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Skimmed through most of this thread but here are some my thoughts. 

1. "Hurney picked up the most important core players." : I would hope so! I think Hurney came in around 2002. If that is correct he had the #2, #8, #28, #14, #27, #25, #13, 19, #1, #9 picks in round one. DG had the #14,#28, #25, #31, #8. DG was in position to pick complementary players in round 1 not Top picks. 

2. Hurney 3 winning season out of 11 and 3 playoff years. DG: 3 winning seasons out of 5. 3 playoff years. 

3. DGs abilities to find valuable undrafted, late round picks and cheap FAs

4. Getting out of Cap hell and not overpaying players. 

These are the reasons that some people love DG. 

Reasons hate DG: Handling vets. Getting rid of beloved Panthers, most notably Smitty, Norman and Gross. 

 

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15 minutes ago, yasuhara2241 said:

Skimmed through most of this thread but here are some my thoughts. 

1. "Hurney picked up the most important core players." : I would hope so! I think Hurney came in around 2002. If that is correct he had the #2, #8, #28, #14, #27, #25, #13, 19, #1, #9 picks in round one. DG had the #14,#28, #25, #31, #8. DG was in position to pick complementary players in round 1 not Top picks. 

2. Hurney 3 winning season out of 11 and 3 playoff years. DG: 3 winning seasons out of 5. 3 playoff years. 

3. DGs abilities to find valuable undrafted, late round picks and cheap FAs

4. Getting out of Cap hell and not overpaying players. 

These are the reasons that some people love DG. 

Reasons hate DG: Handling vets. Getting rid of beloved Panthers, most notably Smitty, Norman and Gross. 

 

Ignoring key positions, wasting money on pretenders (Kalil, Shephard, Coleman), dumpster diving busts (Avant, DeCoud), thinking “hogmolies” are what make a team a super bowl contender, wasting first round picks (Shaq, Butler).

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5 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Ignoring key positions, wasting money on pretenders (Kalil, Shephard, Coleman), dumpster diving busts (Avant, DeCoud), thinking “hogmolies” are what make a team a super bowl contender, wasting first round picks (Shaq, Butler).

Which key positions do you believe he ignored? Remember picking up players via FA wasn't really an option with limited cap space. 

Wasting money on pretenders: Coleman has been great for us until this year where he has struggled. But so far not a waste. Jury is out on Kalil and Shepard, but not looking good yet. Also look how much $$ we paid Coleman and Shep not a lot at all. And Kalil wasn't expensive for a LT but he still hasn't looked that good. 

Dumpster diving busts: You bring up some cheap FA and call them busts? That's called the NFL. Some work, some don't. Luckily for us a lot worked. 

Hogmolies make a team a super bowl contender: Well they certainly don't hurt! Star, Short, Trai Turner, Norwell, Daryl Williams. Those are great pieces. 

Wasting 1st round picks: You are talking about the 25th & 30th pick in the draft. They are not going to be homeruns. Shaq is a double and a starter who plays multiple positions. Vernon is on the bench, but been hampered by injuries so it's hard to gauge but right now it's not looking good for him.

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28 minutes ago, Car123 said:

Ignoring key positions, wasting money on pretenders (Kalil, Shephard, Coleman), dumpster diving busts (Avant, DeCoud), thinking “hogmolies” are what make a team a super bowl contender, wasting first round picks (Shaq, Butler).

Hogmolies are what make Super bowl contender. Hard to make a Superbowl run if your qb is always under pressure. 

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