Yeah... what a bust.

[electro's horse]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I still to this day have no idea what happened and made everyone say CMC was better than Dalvin when before the combine it was a consensus that dalvin was second only to Fournette... 

Cook was probably hurt at the combine. 

[MillionDollarCam]

12 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

Are you banking on Kamara's yac to fall to justify McCaffery's being below the the threshhold? Kamara is just more explosive and better on contact than CMC. Hit comes cmc is going down...Kamara there is no promise that is going to happen...which justifies his yac and why he has more rushing touchdowns.

1. Yards after catch is YAC, I said yards per carry.

2. I'm banking on Kamara's 6.2 ypc to come down because that would mean he would be ranked as the number one back in NFL HISTORY in regards to ypc. Jamal Charles currently holds the running back record at 5.4 ypc and only Randall Cunningham and Michael Vick have a career ypc that his higher than 6.2. Sooooo yeah, that's coming down.

[heel31ok]

On 12/27/2017 at 6:54 PM, LordOfDaWingz said:

Parting ways with J Stew would be the most common sense move. He's slowed down quite a bit. He doesn't hit the hole as fast as he used to.

sadly this is true and was quite obvious...I love J Stew but he is showing his age now...

[heel31ok]

13 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I still to this day have no idea what happened and made everyone say CMC was better than Dalvin when before the combine it was a consensus that dalvin was second only to Fournette... 

could have had both and the answer to the decline from Stewart in one draft...

[Definitely Not Trolling]

13 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

I still to this day have no idea what happened and made everyone say CMC was better than Dalvin when before the combine it was a consensus that dalvin was second only to Fournette... 

That is a great question. I will answer it in a few, but 1st things 1st.

The 3 main running backs were Dalvin, Fournette, and CMC. Most "experts" were clamoring Fournette was the consensus #1 back. While many agreed that Fournette would be the  best pick, all you really need to do is watch Dalvin Cooks Highlight reel from FSU to know he was special.

Dalvin Cook had better speed, more agility, and his ability to break through tackles was actually superior to Fournette(In my opinion anyways). While its all great and all that you can truckstick the living fug out of college secondaries that weigh 170 pounds and 210 linebackers, its takes extremely special powerback to do that in the NFL, like on the level of Jerome Bettis or AP.

Fournette's highlight real in college is amazing, but his style in my opinion was questionable when translating to the NFL, and many people got caught up in the HYPE Train of those trucksticks. As it turns out, he is not on the level of Jerome Bettis or AP and averages 3.9 ypc. A very good rookie back in the NFL, but his potential is not like Dalvin Cook's or CMC's.

CMC's running ability was ranked behind Fournette's and Cook's, and rightfully so. But thats not what made CMC a special player, he ability to split out at the slot and to catch out of the backfield is what made him the best all around threat of all 3 backs. Many people assumed he was going to Carolina, because he would be an amazing fit in this offense, and yes we got him.

NOW, Dalvin Cook was originally talked about as the best back in College football at one point. However serius character concerns dropped him down to the 2nd round. And in all honesty I thought he would be better in Carolina then CMC, because his catching ability is nothing to scoff at.

This video shows his absurd break away speed while running through arm tackles, anything that isnt a form tackle on this guy he will run through without breaking stride. In all honesty this is my favorite hype video of a RB that I have ever seen. In all honesty Dalvin might have been the 1st overall RB taken, had it not been for his massive red flags in the character department(gangs, drugs, booze). Just my 2 cents.

Had Dalvin not gotten injured he most likely would have been a lock for RoY

[Mikey815]

3 hours ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

That is a great question. I will answer it in a few, but 1st things 1st.

The 3 main running backs were Dalvin, Fournette, and CMC. Most "experts" were clamoring Fournette was the consensus #1 back. While many agreed that Fournette would be the  best pick, all you really need to do is watch Dalvin Cooks Highlight reel from FSU to know he was special.

Dalvin Cook had better speed, more agility, and his ability to break through tackles was actually superior to Fournette(In my opinion anyways). While its all great and all that you can truckstick the living fug out of college secondaries that weigh 170 pounds and 210 linebackers, its takes extremely special powerback to do that in the NFL, like on the level of Jerome Bettis or AP.

Fournette's highlight real in college is amazing, but his style in my opinion was questionable when translating to the NFL, and many people got caught up in the HYPE Train of those trucksticks. As it turns out, he is not on the level of Jerome Bettis or AP and averages 3.9 ypc. A very good rookie back in the NFL, but his potential is not like Dalvin Cook's or CMC's.

CMC's running ability was ranked behind Fournette's and Cook's, and rightfully so. But thats not what made CMC a special player, he ability to split out at the slot and to catch out of the backfield is what made him the best all around threat of all 3 backs. Many people assumed he was going to Carolina, because he would be an amazing fit in this offense, and yes we got him.

NOW, Dalvin Cook was originally talked about as the best back in College football at one point. However serius character concerns dropped him down to the 2nd round. And in all honesty I thought he would be better in Carolina then CMC, because his catching ability is nothing to scoff at.

This video shows his absurd break away speed while running through arm tackles, anything that isnt a form tackle on this guy he will run through without breaking stride. In all honesty this is my favorite hype video of a RB that I have ever seen. In all honesty Dalvin might have been the 1st overall RB taken, had it not been for his massive red flags in the character department(gangs, drugs, booze). Just my 2 cents.

Had Dalvin not gotten injured he most likely would have been a lock for RoY

Fournette gets shutdown. by  decent defenses like Alabama. If u take away his 2 big runs of 90 and 75 where he had huge holes then his 3.9 avg becomes 3,26 ypc

[BuckNaked]

I didn't want him at the draft, but I like what he's done so far.  Cam believes in him, he catches the ball as well as any other running back in the league and he should get better.  We will need him to really show up if we plan on making a run in the playoffs.  Not just as a decoy but as a threat that doesn't just draw defenders but beats them.  If we play the saints in the dome and beat them we should be in the big game again.

[micnificent28]

1 hour ago, Mikey815 said:

Fournette gets shutdown. by  decent defenses like Alabama. If u take away his 2 big runs of 90 and 75 where he had huge holes then his 3.9 avg becomes 3,26 ypc

How are you gonna take away something he has done that makes him great. Thats like saying if you take away that one game where cmc....You can't do that in a in a debate

[Mikey815]

3 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

How are you gonna take away something he has done that makes him great. Thats like saying if you take away that one game where cmc....You can't do that in a in a debate

It just means in the other 11 games he played he was shutdown or in effective like he was in college every time he faced alabama

[Mikey815]

Fournette is a lot like stew. In fact his measurable are almost the same except Stew was a bit faster coming out of college. Fournette is a big straight ahead runner with no moves and is injury prone

[*FreeFua*]

McCaffery has been terrible this past month.

Drops a ball against Minny leading to interception

Cant handle the onside kick and GB recovered

Cant shake on 3rd down as the number 1 option against TB resulting in a punt

has 2 drops today with one killing a drive.

He hasn’t been good

[Definitely Not Trolling]

35 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

McCaffery has been terrible this past month.

Drops a ball against Minny leading to interception

Cant handle the onside kick and GB recovered

Cant shake on 3rd down as the number 1 option against TB resulting in a punt

has 2 drops today with one killing a drive.

He hasn’t been good

Astute observations, which players in the NFL have been good this month, considering it only takes less then a handful of bad plays to be a bad player.

Can you list some NFL players that have looked good the past month based on your criteria of "good" and "bad", thanks!

 

[*FreeFua*]

3 minutes ago, Definitely Not Trolling said:

Astute observations, which players in the NFL have been good this month, considering it only takes less then a handful of bad plays to be a bad player.

Can you list some NFL players that have looked good the past month based on your criteria of "good" and "bad", thanks!

 

Facts suck huh

[Definitely Not Trolling]

53 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Facts suck huh

Totally!!!

Whose the "good" players I should be watching???

You must of forgot to list them for us haha! Its OK, take your time man!!! OHH WEEE MAYNE