Yeah... what a bust.

[electro's horse]

finally breaking those legendary panther rookie offensive records like uh, um. Uh

I guess Kelvin wasn't bad?

[electro's horse]

1 hour ago, LordOfDaWingz said:

Parting ways with J Stew would be the most common sense move. He's slowed down quite a bit. He doesn't hit the hole as fast as he used to.

Yeah but it's hurney time now

 

get ready for a contract extension

[Jon Snow]

You fugers bitched for a weapon and now that they have one you still bitch.   If you want to bitch about something bitch about the fact that this staff hasn't figured out how to use him to their advantage just yet.

[SeoulPanther]

29 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

CMC is used in a lot of the same ways that Kamara is. Kamara is just able to make guys miss at a much better rate. He forces missed tackles at a ridiculous rate. 

There's nothing that CMC does better than Kamara. There's a few things Kamara does better than CMC.

Thats nonsense. Kamara can't be used as a conventional receiver out of the slot. He can't run a route tree and he isn't an exceptional catcher of the ball. Does he make returns for ST? As an rb he runs behind an excellent o-line and hes been great. I have Kamara as OROY but lets not get carried away here. He hasnt even completed his rookie season yet.

[SeoulPanther]

CMC is doing an important job and i am pleased with his production considering his patchy usage. I still don't think we were the best fit for him, but thats not his fault.

[saints4lifeagain]

27 minutes ago, SeoulPanther said:

Thats nonsense. Kamara can't be used as a conventional receiver out of the slot. He can't run a route tree and he isn't an exceptional catcher of the ball. Does he make returns for ST? As an rb he runs behind an excellent o-line and hes been great. I have Kamara as OROY but lets not get carried away here. He hasnt even completed his rookie season yet.

Kamara runs routes in the slot. Watch more football.

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/945717567167123457?s=17

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/945720276465135621?s=17

Kamara has 2 fewer recpetions, with a higher catch percentage than CMC. I believe that constitutes as "exceptional".

[Saca312]

1 hour ago, saints4lifeagain said:

There's nothing that CMC does better than Kamara.

as a route running receiver cmc is miles ahead of kamara.

as a pure runner kamara is the better one, especially considering his drastic improvement since his college days. cmc's a bit behind but catching up, but kamara is literally a top 3 back in the nfl imo.

either way, both are talented and work well for their respective teams at being a weapon, so a pissing contest to argue who's better is laughable, as both transform their respective offenses in their own special way.

[saints4lifeagain]

5 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

as a route running receiver cmc is miles ahead of kamara.

as a pure runner kamara is the better one, especially considering his drastic improvement since his college days. cmc's a bit behind but catching up, but kamara is literally a top 3 back in the nfl imo.

either way, both are talented and work well for their respective teams at being a weapon, so a pissing contest to argue who's better is laughable, as both transform their respective offenses in their own special way.

Says who? "Tape" from college? We're 15 games into their pro careers. Kamara can do as much in the slot as CMC can.

[micnificent28]

Sigh. CMC does a number of things well. He isn’t a bad football player by any means ,but is he a top 8 player in this draft or a first round rb? Not really. I dout he will ever be a 1,000 yard rusher as a pure running back. And that’s the primary job of a running back is to be able to run the football and make people miss. I give him all the credit in the world for his has and route running but his lack of break away speed and big plays is concerning.

kamara who’s is much slower shows more explosive plays than cmc and better at almost everything. I would say his stats are overinflated from use similar to KB in his rookie year. Looking at the majority of first round backs who aren’t bust should we want more from cmc? Yes. Gordon,Ingram,fournette,zeke,gurley. Is it wrong to expect him to have that kind of an impact on games? Does he have a hundred yard rushing performance on the year? All those accolades mentioned by the op are receiver stats. No records for running the ball..if we judge him as a running back without the receiving ability ...

[Saca312]

 

2 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Says who? "Tape" from college? We're 15 games into their pro careers. Kamara can do as much in the slot as CMC can.

lol get back at me when kamara does this on the outside against corners.

cmc is far better refined as a receiver and route runner than kamara could ever hope to be. don't let your blind homerism overtake that my dude, because sean peyton's system is perfect for kamara to use simpler concepts to more success.

 

[SeoulPanther]

24 minutes ago, saints4lifeagain said:

Kamara runs routes in the slot. Watch more football.

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/945717567167123457?s=17

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/945720276465135621?s=17

Kamara has 2 fewer recpetions, with a higher catch percentage than CMC. I believe that constitutes as "exceptional".

Im not saying he doesn't or can't. Your point was a blanket statement saying that hes better than CMC at everything. Thats the kind of one-eyed perspective i wouldn't expect from you. Stats are flawed. Volume, opportunity and usage are relevant. I'd love to see Kamara make defenders miss when his OC tells him to run into a wall of D-linemen without blocking. I would also love to see CMC given the ball in space which best utilises his strengths.

 

[Mikey815]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

Sigh. CMC does a number of things well. He isn’t a bad football player by any means ,but is he a top 8 player in this draft or a first round rb? Not really. I dout he will ever be a 1,000 yard rusher as a pure running back. And that’s the primary job of a running back is to be able to run the football and make people miss. I give him all the credit in the world for his has and route running but his lack of break away speed and big plays is concerning.

kamara who’s is much slower shows more explosive plays than cmc and better at almost everything. I would say his stats are overinflated from use similar to KB in his rookie year. Looking at the majority of first round backs who aren’t bust should we want more from cmc? Yes. Gordon,Ingram,fournette,zeke,gurley. Is it wrong to expect him to have that kind of an impact on games? Does he have a hundred yard rushing performance on the year? All those accolades mentioned by the op are receiver stats. No records for running the ball..

I think cmc will go over 1000 rushing if they give him lead back carries ir 20 carries a game

[Saca312]

2 minutes ago, SeoulPanther said:

Im not saying he doesn't or can't. Your point was a blanket statement saying that hes better than CMC at everything. Thats the kind of one-eyed perspective i wouldn't expect from you. Stats are flawed. Volume, opportunity and usage are relevant. I'd love to see Kamara make defenders miss when his OC tells him to run into a wall of D-linemen without blocking. I would also love to see CMC given the ball in space which is his strength and best utilises his strengths.

 

he proceeded to give a bunch of videos where kamara goes against linebackers and run simple routes that really don't require much at all. peyton's system is a masterpiece and it shows.

try pitting kamara against regular corners like we do with cmc and see how that goes. i'm sure we know who'd be the one who'd fare better.

[Mr. Scot]

McCaffrey reminds me of Kevin Faulk, a guy the Patriots had back in the Early 2000s.

Faulk was nobody's idea of a superstar runningback, but go ask a Patriots fan how good he was, how much he was used or how important he was to them winning games.