PFF Panther game grades

[Seltzer]

36 minutes ago, ncfan said:

What about all of our Safeties and CBs?

I can't imagine the grades were good, but they were also put in awful spots by the play calling.

Wilks has got a lot of good press, and it's deserved, but he deserves a lot of the blame for yesterday. The defensive line was getting pressure. There was no reason to blitz so much and leave guys one-on-one.

Koetter exploited Wilks bad yesterday, just like Payton has twice. 

The HC buzz for Wilks is legit, but he looked like a rookie playcaller.

Winston was really good yesterday too when his offensive line wasn't getting blown up. I rewatched the game last night, and we were blitzing haphazardly on 3rd & long and getting burnt.

McDermott wasn't making those mistakes.

[Seltzer]

2 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

it seems like most of the completions that bradberry gave up were winston avoiding like six blitzers and just heaving it up

no DB can cover that long against someone like mike evans.

Exactly. There was no need to play defense like that.

[TheSpecialJuan]

24 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

He certainly wasn't good, just like the rest of the secondary. Some of this is on Wilks, though. He is leaving 24 on an island a lot and is blitzing excessively (and predictably) on 3rd down.

I like Wilks, and it is obvious his guys respect him. I am however starting to feel like he is getting too cute with his play calls to get his name out there (a la Chudzinski) for HC jobs.

I know Shula receives the brunt of the Huddle anger, and he wasn't good yesterday IMO either, but Wilks got pantsed by Koetter yesterday bad. Like really bad. The missed tackles aren't on him, but there's nothing wrong with rushing 4 and playing zone on 3rd and long. 

McDermott did the same thing his 1st year in Philly trying to be like his predessor Jim Johnson.

Anyway, we were lucky to win. I'm not that down though bc we were due a letdown after 2 great performances.

Need to be better across the board. Coaching, play calling, execution. 

But we're in the playoffs for the 4th time on 5 years. I got faith we will be ready next week.

stupid

[Seltzer]

5 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

stupid

What's stupid? You think Wilks called a good game yesterday?

[SeoulPanther]

Funny that the 3 o-line panthers mentioned are the only ones currently NOT on big contracts.

[TheSpecialJuan]

54 minutes ago, Seltzer said:

What's stupid? You think Wilks called a good game yesterday?

I thought he called a marvelous game yesterday.

[Seltzer]

38 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I thought he called a marvelous game yesterday.

Gotcha. I respect your opinion, just disagree. 

And I do think Wilks is a good coach overall. I just think he unnecessarily (and predictably) blitzes on 3rd and longs and it backfires.

I think it was a good strategy for the first part of the year when teams weren't expecting it, but teams are expecting and exploiting it at this point.

Wilks isn't out there missing tackles or mistiming jump balls for sure, but he seems to have unwarranted faith in our secondary to handle one-on-one coverage in obvious passing downs.

I just don't believe the risk/reward is worth it on 3rd & long to blitz almost all the time when the D line was getting pressure with just 4. Sure you might get a sack, or you could have Evans beat single coverage for 15. Giving up 7 on 3rd & 8 is ok even if it is the conservative approach.

 

[Rags]

1 hour ago, Seltzer said:

Gotcha. I respect your opinion, just disagree. 

And I do think Wilks is a good coach overall. I just think he unnecessarily (and predictably) blitzes on 3rd and longs and it backfires.

I think it was a good strategy for the first part of the year when teams weren't expecting it, but teams are expecting and exploiting it at this point.

Wilks isn't out there missing tackles or mistiming jump balls for sure, but he seems to have unwarranted faith in our secondary to handle one-on-one coverage in obvious passing downs.

I just don't believe the risk/reward is worth it on 3rd & long to blitz almost all the time when the D line was getting pressure with just 4. Sure you might get a sack, or you could have Evans beat single coverage for 15. Giving up 7 on 3rd & 8 is ok even if it is the conservative approach.

 

Add onto the fact we were getting consistent pressure with just our d-line for once.

Extra pressure was ?????

[Fright]

Worley likes to tweet all day when not given playing time.. he’s given it and gets destroyed.. crickets...

i was fond of the pick at the time.. but now I hope we move on from him entirely next year.

[TheSpecialJuan]

3 hours ago, Fright said:

Worley likes to tweet all day when not given playing time.. he’s given it and gets destroyed.. crickets...

i was fond of the pick at the time.. but now I hope we move on from him entirely next year.

He had a bad game but as PFF mentions, he's been very solid in his 1st 2 years in the league. 

[Yaboychris28]

19 hours ago, electro's horse said:

I don't know if he was awful so much as he kept getting dinged on ticky tack calls.

Even without the ticky tack calls, he was still bad imo

[Mage]

20 hours ago, Seltzer said:

Exactly. There was no need to play defense like that.

To be fair, if there is one thing Winston does well, it's avoid rushers.  He's a big dude.  

Keenum and Brees are the only two guys that concern me in the postseason in regards to their ability to escape the rush.  Brees is criminally underrated in that aspect - his pocket movement is insane.

[beastson]

Short should be in the pro-bowl