Redskins shopping Anthony Montgomery

[panthers55]

It would be a smart move but it wont happen. John Fox is too loyal to his sucky players like Nick Hayden.

John Fox doesn't do the scouting or control the purse strings. He probably doesn't have more say in it than the defensive line coach who would have to work with him. With all Fox has to do to prepare for each team every week, he has no time to be involved in every situation. I suspect that the scout of pro personnel and Hurney have gone over this and would make the decisions.

I realize you like to criticize Fox and believe everything is his fault but the reality is that he literally can't control everything much like a president can't make every decision. You have people you rely on to do their job. If we picked up Montgomery we wouldn't have to get rid of Hayden and still could put him on the practice squad. The bigger issue will likely be whether Montgomery is ready to play or not. We wouldn't be able to pick him up and develop him. he would have to be ready to contribute in order to make it worth our while to pick him up.

[scpanther22]

HIs salary is 455000. And we could probably get him for a 7th or 6th. I think it would be a good move and we could afford it. Plus I am not aware of bad character issues.

Thoughts??

It would be the perfect move...but the skins prob will wont more than a 7th

[Fiz]

snyder is about as smart as peppers defenders on here, so maybe he believes peppers can give him two "sacks" and a "safety" game after sunday.

[Mesmer]

snyder is about as smart as peppers defenders on here, so maybe he believes peppers can give him two "sacks" and a "safety" game after sunday.

Didn't you read the memo? Peppers is back to form and truly a dominant force in this league once again.

[Gman was right]

John Fox doesn't do the scouting or control the purse strings. He probably doesn't have more say in it than the defensive line coach who would have to work with him. With all Fox has to do to prepare for each team every week, he has no time to be involved in every situation. I suspect that the scout of pro personnel and Hurney have gone over this and would make the decisions.

I realize you like to criticize Fox and believe everything is his fault but the reality is that he literally can't control everything much like a president can't make every decision. You have people you rely on to do their job. If we picked up Montgomery we wouldn't have to get rid of Hayden and still could put him on the practice squad. The bigger issue will likely be whether Montgomery is ready to play or not. We wouldn't be able to pick him up and develop him. he would have to be ready to contribute in order to make it worth our while to pick him up.

Fox has just as much say in the matter as Hurney does because they are a team. Hurney wouldnt pick up a player that Fox didnt want. Fox and Hurney will both stay loyal to Hayden since he was their draft choice and want to see hin succed. They will continue to say he is improving even when he is getting his ass handed to him week in and week out rather than adressing the problem and replacing him.

[panthers55]

It would be the perfect move...but the skins prob will wont more than a 7th

Under normal circumstances he might be worth more but with the trade deadline a week away and he knows that if he doesn't unload him that he will have a guy he is paying who won't see the field at all this year. So he doesn't have a ton of leverage or a bunch of teams clamoring for him. I suspect that we could make it a 7th that could become a 6th or even a 5th based on whether Montgomery makes the squad, plays so many downs, gets so many sacks, etc so that it would be enticing. Maybe they are happy with Thomas, who knows. Foxy sure had good things to say on Sirius about him.

[panthers55]

Fox has just as much say in the matter as Hurney does because they are a team. Hurney wouldnt pick up a player that Fox didnt want. Fox and Hurney will both stay loyal to Hayden since he was their draft choice and want to see hin succed. They will continue to say he is improving even when he is getting his ass handed to him week in and week out rather than adressing the problem and replacing him.

You know this how? Unless you have insider information, this is speculation and not typical of how teams operate.

[scpanther22]

Under normal circumstances he might be worth more but with the trade deadline a week away and he knows that if he doesn't unload him that he will have a guy he is paying who won't see the field at all this year. So he doesn't have a ton of leverage or a bunch of teams clamoring for him. I suspect that we could make it a 7th that could become a 6th or even a 5th based on whether Montgomery makes the squad, plays so many downs, gets so many sacks, etc could get it done. Maybe they are happy with Thomas, who knows. Foxy sure had good things to say on Sirius about him.

yeah..but Thomas is old prob will here just for this year..Montgomery has the size and upside..plus i know he is better than burtton

[Gman was right]

You know this how? Unless you have insider information, this is speculation and not typical of how teams operate.

Because I have heard Martty say it himself in radio interviews. When it comes to the draft and free agency the decision is ultimately his but Fox has just as much imput into the decision. I have also heard Pat Y say this as well. Martty will not pick up a player without Fox's consent even though he technically has the authority to do so. They are a team! They work together in making these decisions. I would say that many if not most teams work that way.

[panthers55]

Because I have heard Martty say it himself in radio interviews. When it comes to the draft and free agency the decision is ultimately his but Fox has just as much imput into the decision. I have also heard Pat Y say this as well. Martty will not pick up a player without Fox's consent even though he technically has the authority to do so. They are a team! They work together in making these decisions. I would say that many if not most teams work that way.

On the draft I would agree because frankly they are not in the season. Secondly I am sure he wouldn't pick someone without running it by Fox since Fox has been in the league a numbers of years and knows most of the players.

My point was that the bulk of the pre work would be by the scouts. Fox would say like any coach- sure that sounds good. Then Hurney would have to see if it was a possibility and do all the negotiating. Fox would have a minimal role in it. Unless Fox lobbyied for a guy and said he wanted him at all costs, Hurney will have the lion's share of figuring out whether they can afford him and the terms. Fox would likely get involved again in deciding who they would lose and what they would do with him.

[panthers55]

yeah..but Thomas is old prob will here just for this year..Montgomery has the size and upside..plus i know he is better than burtton

I am sure we have inquired, it makes sense. Don't know how interested we are though if there are several suitors. Wouldn't be surprised if Hurney talked with Redskin folks on Sunday about it while they were in town.

[scpanther22]

On the draft I would agree because frankly they are not in the season. Secondly I am sure he wouldn't pick someone without running it by Fox since Fox has been in the league a numbers of years and knows most of the players.

My point was that the bulk of the pre work would be by the scouts. Fox would say like any coach- sure that sounds good. Then Hurney would have to see if it was a possibility and do all the negotiating. Fox would have a minimal role in it. Unless Fox lobbyied for a guy and said he wanted him at all costs, Hurney will have the lion's share of figuring out whether they can afford him and the terms. Fox would likely get involved again in deciding who they would lose and what they would do with him.

Hurney also does a lot of scouting himself..since the team let go 2 scouts:banghead:

[beastson]

It would be a smart move but it wont happen. John Fox is too loyal to his sucky players like Nick Hayden.

Who?

Who the hell is nick hayden

[Vagrant]

You guys do realize that Kemo will be back next season, correct? I am not saying that we need to totally forget about this season, but we need a hell of a lot more help at safety than we do at DT now that Hollis Thomas has shown he can at least plug some holes.