Culturally, what will change?

[Snake]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not really.

Hurney is the GM at least through this offseason. It will take at least that long to get new owners in place, and then after that the owners will take a look at the structure and decide what changes they want to make. All of this likely takes place over the course of next season.

Now suppose for a moment that next season is a disaster and we finish 1-15 or something like that.

The offseason following that, the new GM takes over.

At that point, all options are open. The team could move on from Newton, Kuechly, Rivera, anybody.

Yeah for one this is new area because rarely does someone get to purchase a successful team thus the need to restructure. Whoever does purchase the team will get a playoff team as well. That's why JR will get paid a ton of money and we want see the team sell off Luke and Cam. 

[Rags]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

At that point, all options are open. The team could move on from Newton, Kuechly, Rivera, anybody.

And set himself up to lose his job.

How many coaches/GMs has Rivers been through? This day and age you don't replace a QB or a star player like Luke in this media driven age and instantly get backlash. Not to mention you instantly say "we're in rebuild mode" for no reason and your job is instantly on thin ice.

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, mjligon said:

Well yeah if we went 1-15 that would require some serious change. 

Not saying it couldn’t happen, but it would take some serious collapse to fall that far next season.

We've got some guys on board in key spots who are a little long in the tooth.

Matt Kalil is likely still the left tackle next year.

How susceptible to additional concussions is Kuechly?

How many more hits is Newton going to take?

And we're talking about a time frame of early 2019 here. If I remember correctly, the 2019 to 2020 season is the last year of Newton's contract (somebody can look that up).

My personal take: Newton is here through at least the end of his current contract. Whether it gets extended or not depends on the next few years.

So no, I don't think it will happen.

But again, it definitely could.

[Rags]

I'd hope we'd be more willing to take a chance on risky players.

 

[Jon Snow]

16 minutes ago, Snake said:

It would be a even bigger mistake. We have a top 5 QB that will go down as one of the best. It would be like trading Payton Manning in his prime. 

That's a fans perspective, the new owner may not see it that way.  Not everyone is a Cam Newton fan, just saying.   Now it can be assumed that the current staff and roster will get at minimum a season to show that they want to be a part of whatever plan/philosophy put in place going forward.  But that's not fully guaranteed as Scott points out, anything can happen.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Rags said:

And set himself up to lose his job.

How many coaches/GMs has Rivers been through? This day and age you don't replace a QB or a star player like Luke in this media driven age and instantly get backlash. Not to mention you instantly say "we're in rebuild mode" for no reason and your job is instantly on thin ice.

Again, look at the time frame.

A new GM won't really be settling into his job until just before the last year of Newton's contract. At that point he's facing a decision to offer a large extension, let him play out his current contract, move on or try to trade him.

If I recall correctly, Rivera is contract only has a couple of years left on it as well. Unless he's extended, same story.

Kuechly? If he continues to stay healthy, yeah. Another concussion? Who can say.

[SCO96]

1 hour ago, Fox007 said:

Black Uniforms and helmets.

Logo at mid field

Tattoos for all

Uhh...back to back winning seasons? 

 

This is the only thing on your list that concerns me for the 2018 season. I tell my non Panther friends about our inability to do so for the past 20+ years and they are absolutely amazed at that statistic.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Rags said:

I'd hope we'd be more willing to take a chance on risky players.

 

Hire Marvin Lewis as the next GM and that's guaranteed.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

That's a fans perspective, the new owner may not see it that way.  Not everyone is a Cam Newton fan, just saying.   Now it can be assumed that the current staff and roster will get at minimum a season to show that they want to be a part of whatever plan/philosophy put in place going forward.  But that's not fully guaranteed as Scott points out, anything can happen.

Correct.

I'm not really expecting major changes next season. Marty Hurney will still be running this off-season, and the new owners won't be in a position to realistically do much of anything major until the following season. 

At that point though, all bets are off.

[Jon Snow]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Correct.

I'm not really expecting major changes next season. Marty Hurney will still be running this off-season, and the new owners won't be in a position to realistically do much of anything major until the following season. 

At that point though, all bets are off.

I agree, it's business as usual for now.

[Woodie]

35 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He is the current franchise, yes.

But some new owners want to start everything fresh, put their own stamp on things, wipe away the old, etc.

Guys like Thomas Davis, Ryan Kalil, Greg Olsen and yes, Newton, could be seen as remnants of the old guard, and expendable.

Will it happen? Unknown. But if you think it couldn't happen, think again. 

Plenty of teams go through major changes after changing owners. It's possible for us too.

I don't think it is as farfetched an idea as some want to believe.  Yes, Cam is the heart of our franchise, but he plays a very unique style of football that not everyone wants.  Many see his style as unsustainable and limiting (from a passing perspective).  Also, some people just don't like Cam and his personal style (it's very much a love it or hate it style), and may not want him as the face of their franchise.  

So, for arguments sake, lets say the new owner brings in a GM from a passing-focused team like the Patriots (so believes in an accuracy and timing based passing attack) and hires the offensive minded coach many have wanted for years.  They may decide that while effective in the scheme we currently run, Cam doesn't fit their vision of what they want our offense to look like.  That would be a situation in which the team could very well decide to move on from Cam. 

If they did go that route, they could to bring in a guy like Kirk Cousins who, while clearly an inferior talent, may actually be a better fit for what they want to do on offense, and trade Cam for a significant haul (high1st plus other picks).  The issue wouldn't be what Cam means to the Panthers now, but how he fits the offense the new regime wants to run.

[Mr. Scot]

34 minutes ago, Woodie said:

I don't think it is as farfetched an idea as some want to believe.  Yes, Cam is the heart of our franchise, but he plays a very unique style of football that not everyone wants.  Many see his style as unsustainable and limiting (from a passing perspective).  Also, some people just don't like Cam and his personal style (it's very much a love it or hate it style), and may not want him as the face of their franchise.  

So, for arguments sake, lets say the new owner brings in a GM from a passing-focused team like the Patriots (so believes in an accuracy and timing based passing attack) and hires the offensive minded coach many have wanted for years.  They may decide that while effective in the scheme we currently run, Cam doesn't fit their vision of what they want our offense to look like.  That would be a situation in which the team could very well decide to move on from Cam. 

If they did go that route, they could to bring in a guy like Kirk Cousins who, while clearly an inferior talent, may actually be a better fit for what they want to do on offense, and trade Cam for a significant haul (high1st plus other picks).  The issue wouldn't be what Cam means to the Panthers now, but how he fits the offense the new regime wants to run.

Correct.

Checked the contracts, and at the time a new owner and likely new GM would be taking control, Newton would have two years left on his deal. Kuechly would have three. Greg Olsen, Ryan Kalil and Thomas Davis would all be free agents.

[CatMan72]

New owner is replacing an embattled yet beloved owner and I think will ease himself in. If the new owner is a Levine or Belk I think very little will change. Bruton Smith has a big ego and might immediately seek to put his own stamp on things. 

[Woodie]

1 minute ago, CatMan72 said:

New owner is replacing an embattled yet beloved owner and I think will ease himself in. If the new owner is a Levine or Belk I think very little will change. Bruton Smith has a big ego and might immediately seek to put his own stamp on things. 

I think Smith would come in and shake things up just to show he's in charge.  I'm sure he wants to win, but I think he'll want people to know it was his decisions that led us to the win.  I don't think he'd want to have the credit go to what JR's regime built.  So, more than any of the options being talked about, I think Bruton Smith would have the most drastic changes...and he would also love the fact that everyone is talking about him.