Interesting Article, Gettleman vs Reese Drafts

[AggieLean]

The Giants will be relevant sooner rather than later because that roster is talented, with some very solid pieces already in place. Just a down year for them 

[MVPccaffrey]

If what G-man did was too cute, what do we call Hurney doing when he had entire drafts that would bust outside of 1 player?

 

 

[Car123]

36 minutes ago, Camvp said:

If what G-man did was too cute, what do we call Hurney doing when he had entire drafts that would bust outside of 1 player?

 

 

I can only recall 2011.

[Shocker]

12 hours ago, shulasmyhero said:

Dave's undoing in Carolina appears to have been his handling of veteran players in contract negotiations. 

Different ownership and different culture, Dave will thrive with NYG.

Yeah, I'm fairly certain this was the deal.  I honestly think Gettleman was thinking of cutting Olsen and maybe TD as well.  I will just say...what has happened with Olsen this year?  Just saying.

[shaqattaq]

12 hours ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Pretty fair assessment TBH. My only real criticism is how they don't mention the UDFA's and how short they sell Star. He frees Luke up to do Luke stuff. 

Either way, not bad. 

I think that they also need to mention that for those 4 years Reese drafted at 9,12, 9, & 10, while G-man drafted at 14, 28, 25, & 31. I seriously doubt that anyone, Dave included, would have drafted KB if Beckham was still on the board. We had just cut Smitty, and OBJ would have been the perfect replacement. I agree that Star is better than they give him credit for.

My other realization is that the 2015 draft is really starting to come together. Shaq, Funch and Wiliams are now solid starters. Mayo is a ST beast and a solid backup who could start on several teams. And CAP has shown a lot of promise when given a chance, which is very seldom for some unknown reason. I still (insert dead horse gif here) would have grabbed Collins instead of Shaq, because he was a bigger need. How awesome would that draft had been with Collins and our other 4 picks??

[frash.exe]

37 minutes ago, Car123 said:

I can only recall 2011.

in 2009 our best pick was captain munnerlyn

arguably 2010 depending on your opinion of brandon lafell

[TheRed]

14 hours ago, frash.exe said:

this article is proof that you can’t depend on building through the draft. it’s such an overrated metric to judge player evaluators. the only way you can judge is by their total body of work. the players they brought in as free agents, the value with which they got those players, the skill sets they were looking for, etc. also, i can’t agree with all of the analysis. odell beckham is definitely more talented than benjamin of course, but i wouldn’t say that he “didn’t pan out” here. 

if you compared reese’s drafts with belichick’s you’d probably find that there wasn’t a major difference either. but while gettleman was maximizing the potential of the panthers during his tenure, reese was building teams that couldn’t function well enough to make the playoffs for 4 years in a row.

The funny thing is, barely a year ago you were here swinging Gettleman's dick around to anyone critical of him citing his Super Bowl rings that he got with the Giants. Now you're downplaying the significance of drafting even though those very drafts Reese oversaw had a direct hand in winning those rings?

Your credibility is in shambles bud.

[pepaw]

A couple of things:

1.) Star was not a "wash"

2.) 2015 was not sub par or whatever quote he used. We got 3 solid players

3.) 2016 gave us one good corner hopefully the other one will work out in the long run

[frash.exe]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

The funny thing is, barely a year ago you were here swinging Gettleman's dick around to anyone critical of him citing his Super Bowl rings that he got with the Giants. Now you're downplaying the significance of drafting even though those very drafts Reese oversaw had a direct hand in winning those rings?

i’m specifically talking about the drafts they were comparing in the article here. not 2012, not 2007-2011, not 1991, but 2013-2017.

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

Your credibility is in shambles bud.

aww, that’s cute. you should leave your house more often.

[sharkkiller]

 

This should be in the NFL forum. This is not the off season.

[ickmule]

I mean we have Hurney, so let’s talk $hit about the best GM we ever had.  I can’t imagine any reason why you would ever bring back a GM you fired. Makes zero sense in any situation. 

[Car123]

Hurney '02-'08 > Dave