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Interesting Article, Gettleman vs Reese Drafts

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unicar15 Experienced

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4 hours ago, JARROD said:

Playing money ball with Jordan gross, Steve smith, ted Ginn twice, josh Norman, to be followed by Olsen and TD etc.

cute was tongue in cheek, apologies if the need to spell everything out is your thing.

Here’s the deal...he made unpopular moves but they were the right moves. 

Smitty - Wanted 10 mil a year to be a guy who has a couple good games and doesn’t block or help in running game. Also was a profoundly difficult teammate by all accounts. DG let him walk and the Ravens signed him for 3 years/ a max of 12 million. I guarantee you he could have stayed here for that...he didn’t want it so DG called his bluff

Norman - Wanted to be richest defender in history. No way he’s worth that. Especially with KK up for a contract. DG called his bluff and let him walk. Only thing I’d have done diff is let him play under the tag. A long term deal wasn’t happening. 

Ginn - Would have loved to have kept him. Bad move.

Hurney walks in and immediately gives contracts to Olsen and TD. Immediately it’s apparent TD has lost a step. Olsen proceeds to miss essentially the entire reg season suffering an old man’s injury. Were those good deals? Maybe if they’re cap friendly. But if they aren’t then Hurney is doing the same thing he did previously which is keep guys around a year too long and give out money that could be used to make the team better. A million too much  here and a million too much there...do that for 5 diff guys and you’ve just lost a potential game changer bc you spent all the cap on “program guys” who you feel like you owe. It’s just bad management. 

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4 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Here’s the deal...he made unpopular moves but they were the right moves. 

Smitty - Wanted 10 mil a year to be a guy who has a couple good games and doesn’t block or help in running game. Also was a profoundly difficult teammate by all accounts. DG let him walk and the Ravens signed him for 3 years/ a max of 12 million. I guarantee you he could have stayed here for that...he didn’t want it so DG called his bluff

Norman - Wanted to be richest defender in history. No way he’s worth that. Especially with KK up for a contract. DG called his bluff and let him walk. Only thing I’d have done diff is let him play under the tag. A long term deal wasn’t happening. 

Ginn - Would have loved to have kept him. Bad move.

Hurney walks in and immediately gives contracts to Olsen and TD. Immediately it’s apparent TD has lost a step. Olsen proceeds to miss essentially the entire reg season suffering an old man’s injury. Were those good deals? Maybe if they’re cap friendly. But if they aren’t then Hurney is doing the same thing he did previously which is keep guys around a year too long and give out money that could be used to make the team better. A million too much  here and a million too much there...do that for 5 diff guys and you’ve just lost a potential game changer bc you spent all the cap on “program guys” who you feel like you owe. It’s just bad management. 

First sentence into your Smith paragraph and you're already talking out your ass. Steve Smith was the best blocking receiver I've ever seen play for this team. The guy loved to lay wood.

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6 hours ago, Moorgan said:

Unless, I'm mistaken, no one on this board knows why he was fired. Did that information come out and I miss it? As far as I knew, there was still silence as to why DG was fired...officially.

It was JRs plan all along to let Dave go and let Bene take over. Bene dipped so we get Hurney again unfortunately. This is a story I got from someone inside the organization. JR is much more hands on than he leads to believe. Cap is fixed at least. 

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42 minutes ago, unicar15 said:

Here’s the deal...he made unpopular moves but they were the right moves. 

Smitty - Wanted 10 mil a year to be a guy who has a couple good games and doesn’t block or help in running game. Also was a profoundly difficult teammate by all accounts. DG let him walk and the Ravens signed him for 3 years/ a max of 12 million. I guarantee you he could have stayed here for that...he didn’t want it so DG called his bluff

Norman - Wanted to be richest defender in history. No way he’s worth that. Especially with KK up for a contract. DG called his bluff and let him walk. Only thing I’d have done diff is let him play under the tag. A long term deal wasn’t happening. 

Ginn - Would have loved to have kept him. Bad move.

Hurney walks in and immediately gives contracts to Olsen and TD. Immediately it’s apparent TD has lost a step. Olsen proceeds to miss essentially the entire reg season suffering an old man’s injury. Were those good deals? Maybe if they’re cap friendly. But if they aren’t then Hurney is doing the same thing he did previously which is keep guys around a year too long and give out money that could be used to make the team better. A million too much  here and a million too much there...do that for 5 diff guys and you’ve just lost a potential game changer bc you spent all the cap on “program guys” who you feel like you owe. It’s just bad management. 

The question you have to ask is it hurney or JR giving the contracts. If it's the latter we are in for a world of hurt because we have a older team. 

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1 hour ago, unicar15 said:

Here’s the deal...he made unpopular moves but they were the right moves. 

Smitty - Wanted 10 mil a year to be a guy who has a couple good games and doesn’t block or help in running game. Also was a profoundly difficult teammate by all accounts. DG let him walk and the Ravens signed him for 3 years/ a max of 12 million. I guarantee you he could have stayed here for that...he didn’t want it so DG called his bluff

Norman - Wanted to be richest defender in history. No way he’s worth that. Especially with KK up for a contract. DG called his bluff and let him walk. Only thing I’d have done diff is let him play under the tag. A long term deal wasn’t happening. 

Ginn - Would have loved to have kept him. Bad move.

Hurney walks in and immediately gives contracts to Olsen and TD. Immediately it’s apparent TD has lost a step. Olsen proceeds to miss essentially the entire reg season suffering an old man’s injury. Were those good deals? Maybe if they’re cap friendly. But if they aren’t then Hurney is doing the same thing he did previously which is keep guys around a year too long and give out money that could be used to make the team better. A million too much  here and a million too much there...do that for 5 diff guys and you’ve just lost a potential game changer bc you spent all the cap on “program guys” who you feel like you owe. It’s just bad management. 

everybody wants a hard ass until the hard ass actually shows up

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5 hours ago, JARROD said:

Playing money ball with Jordan gross, Steve smith, ted Ginn twice, josh Norman, to be followed by Olsen and TD etc.

cute was tongue in cheek, apologies if the need to spell everything out is your thing.

Gross... Aging vet who wanted more money then he was worth... Oh. And  we were in cap hell.

 

Smith... Fan favorite franchise player who had a huge cap hot and was becoming a distraction in the locker room... Oh, and we were still in cap hell.

Ginn... Wanted money after we gave him a false sense of security.tell me... Who led the league in dropped air yardage while we had Ginn as a wr? Wasn't anywhere near worth what he wanted.

 

Norman.... Nothing but a slightly above average corner that actually has been exposed over and over in Washington. Wanted to be paid top dollar cuz he self inflated himself in the media like Sherman

 

TD... aging vet who we already drafted a replacement for in the first round. Love him to death, but there was nothing saying we WEREN'T gonna re sign him, just didn't have anything saying we were either.

Olsen... Still had 2 years left on a deal and already complaining about wanting more money, wasn't a priority when we have other people in their contract year to extend...

 

 

Is that spelled out enough?

 

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13 hours ago, Moorgan said:

Unless, I'm mistaken, no one on this board knows why he was fired. Did that information come out and I miss it? As far as I knew, there was still silence as to why DG was fired...officially.

JR caught Gettleman in bed with his bojangles.

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16 hours ago, over the legal limit said:

Giants fans better be ready to see Gman draft DLs and LBs.

that's pretty much what they did when gettleman worked for them before. people mocked them, but they kept showing up in superbowls and winning.

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