Cameron Artis-Payne

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Dragoon11 said:

Can someone PLEASE, PLEASE give me a definitive reason WHY CAP isn't getting more touches??? I realize we have only a small sample size, but the opportunities he has gotten he's more than made the most of. He has fresh legs and size. And he's shown vast improvement this year. Do the coaches know something we don't?? Is he fumble prone, injury prone?? Does he have a bad attitude and coaches don't like him?? I just don't get it. Our run game needs all the help it can get. Heck, he can't be any worse than Stew is right now. The plays I've seen CAP is cutting on a dime.....Why not give him more touches and see what happens?? I don't see a downside to this.......Suggestions???

Matt Lauer

[CPF4LIFE]

Saints let go of a vet in Peterson to get kamara more touches and you see the result. Thats the difference between coach who knows what he is doing to improve his team and one that doesn't. Its not a sean payton praise its just the damn truth. Rivera is not cut out for the position he holds. And shula has no business being a offensive coordinator. Thats facts.

[OneBadCat]

CAP really does deserve more touches. He is a north south guy that moves laterally with decisiveness. He is notably faster than he  was in previous seasons. I love Stew to death and I still think the man can play but CAP is a complete back in this system that needs to see the field on 1st and 2nd down.

[CarolinaNCSU]

Don't worry, at the rate his career has gone, he'll be the starter when he's 30 and RR finally trusts him.  Fresh legs and all that 

[JARROD]

I think you guys are all on drugs. Stewart is leaps and bounds better and more explosive than CAP, it’s not even close.

the difference is only that CAP is nobody so the defenders did not care and did not play the running back at the 12 yard line at the goal.

if Stewart was in they would all be up there ready— he’s twice as powerful and a hell of a lot quicker.

i don’t drink, maybe everyone else should stop.  Apparently the organization agrees.

i also disagree about the loyalty thing, see ted Ginn, Benjamin and others that have been sent away or not signed.

[beastson]

6 minutes ago, JARROD said:

I think you guys are all on drugs. Stewart is leaps and bounds better and more explosive than CAP, it’s not even close.

the difference is only that CAP is nobody so the defenders did not care and did not play the running back at the 12 yard line at the goal.

if Stewart was in they would all be up there ready— he’s twice as powerful and a hell of a lot quicker.

i don’t drink, maybe everyone else should stop.  Apparently the organization agrees.

i also disagree about the loyalty thing, see ted Ginn, Benjamin and others that have been sent away or not signed.

Or maybe you should start drinking might see things the right way

[JARROD]

Just now, beastson said:

Or maybe you should start drinking might see things the right way

Right. Haha.

seriously, if CAP starts he will run with fire and all that, but he’s slower and less powerful than Stewart. 

The other teams didn’t respect or care when he was in there.

if he was the guy, that would change and guaranteed the box gets loaded and our piss poor offense line gets him killed, doubt he makes it out of his first game.

they had this thing on sports center showing offensive line pushes and average yard before initial contact. Ours was the worst or close by far.

stewart was still getting towards the top of yards after contact.

imagine if we had a line toward the top pushing 2.6-2.8 yards before first contact and making holes like that waste land mark Ingram had to run through for his 72 yarder?

none of yaw would be saying these things.

i hope they do start CAP so these threads would come to a screeching halt. IR after one game

[The Donald]

[Dragoon11]

9 hours ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Don't worry, at the rate his career has gone, he'll be the starter when he's 30 and RR finally trusts him.  Fresh legs and all that 

See.......This is what is crazy. This guy is young and fresh. His RB PRIME. He should be given way more opportunities. This is one that really does make coaching staff look inept.

[Dragoon11]

9 hours ago, JARROD said:

I think you guys are all on drugs. Stewart is leaps and bounds better and more explosive than CAP, it’s not even close.

the difference is only that CAP is nobody so the defenders did not care and did not play the running back at the 12 yard line at the goal.

if Stewart was in they would all be up there ready— he’s twice as powerful and a hell of a lot quicker.

i don’t drink, maybe everyone else should stop.  Apparently the organization agrees.

i also disagree about the loyalty thing, see ted Ginn, Benjamin and others that have been sent away or not signed.

TWICE as powerful??....Leaps and bounds better and more explosive??....WOW, that's quite a stretch. Have you seen the size of CAP's legs?? Have you seen some of his runs this year, no matter who and when it was against?? Stewart is averaging 3.2 yards per carry. That average is beefed up by game against Miami. Do you REALLY believe CAP would be worse?? When your running game is one of worst in league and is suppose to be your teams strength, is it not worth it to give the guy a shot to see if it could spark something??.....To ME, CAP since preseason has looked like the teams most improved player. His shiftiness and explosiveness through the hole is soooo much better than it was last year.

[JARROD]

Just now, Dragoon11 said:

TWICE as powerful??....Leaps and bounds better and more explosive??....WOW, that's quite a stretch. Have you seen the size of CAP's legs?? Have you seen some of his runs this year, no matter who and when it was against?? Stewart is averaging 3.2 yards per carry. That average is beefed up by game against Miami. Do you REALLY believe CAP would be worse?? When your running game is one of worst in league and is suppose to be your teams strength, is it not worth it to give the guy a shot to see if it could spark something??.....To ME, CAP since preseason has looked like the teams most improved player. His shiftiness and explosiveness through the hole is soooo much better than it was last year.

Our offensive line average .3 yards before initial contact, the league average is 1.8 and the top 10 average over 2.3. Look it up. Therefore if we were on the 2 yard end, then Stewart’s YPC would be 4.5-5 and no one could say anything.

CAP doesn’t suck, but no one cares when he’s in the game. He gets no attention.

once he’s the guy and all the attention is on him then you would see. The boxes and run blitzes would come and he’d be crushed.

CAP is not the beast that Stewart is, not even close.

I know guys really just want someone to blame and have the college favorites and shiny new toys to want, but few are as good as Stewart is.

our scheme and personnel just suck and are not complimentary to each other.

no one respects our receivers so everyone plays the run for Cam and Stewart and McCaffrey. The oline is decent at pass protection but about the worst in the league for run.

i wish Rivera would start CAP and give him 15 carries stubbornly just so everyone would see.

he would have initial success, again because no one would care he’s playing.

Then they would,...

[Daddy_Uncle]

Stew would complain to JR resulting in Rivera being fired. 

[shaqattaq]

13 hours ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

Don't worry, at the rate his career has gone, he'll be the starter when he's 30 and RR finally trusts him.  Fresh legs and all that 

He'll get plenty of touches in 2019...for the Patriots!

[Mikey815]

Use cmc as the lead and Cap on short yardage. Time to phase out stew he’s done