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but we coulda / shoulda had . . .


RevJ

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In every part of life there is a sense of missed opportunities.  In the Huddle, it rages on steroids, day after day.  We get the stats and videos of the guys we missed on.  Members regularly thrash management for their picks if others turn out better.  Same people are quiet when they lobbied for guys that became a bust or even worse when they complained about a pick that actually turned out well (see: Kuechly, Luke; Short, Kawann, etc.)
 

Thought I'd take my turn. In 2000, we missed on Tom Brady, although we did get guys like Rashard Anderson and Gillis Wilson.  Brady threw for over 350 yards in the Orange Bowl and brought the Wolverines back from a 14 point deficit to beat Alabama.  I watched that game and though that we should get him. How could management miss that?

In 2005, we missed on Frank Gore, picking Eric Shelton instead.

In 2009, we took Everett Brown and kept from getting stuck with guys like Connor Barwin, Max Unger and LeSean McCoy.

Pretty sure you could do this any and every year for almost every team. Each year, a team does a great overall job on the draft.  We'd love to have this year's Saints draft, but it is an anomaly

In summary, we are terrible.  We could only wish to be as good as Cleveland. ( Actual W-L record puts us near the middle, buy everyone knows stats are or losers) We should fire the owner, all management, the cheerleaders, parking attendants and implode the stadium - bet we could do that better than the Falcons or Lions did. 

 

 

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In 2000, we still had Bueurlein and the plan was for Jeff Lewis to take over the reigns and be our franchise QB of the future.

Frank Gore had two ACL tears in college. Would you draft him? Or are you simply playing the hindsight game?

In 2009, we just lost Julius Peppers. Yes, Brown was the absolute worst choice for a DE, and Barwin would have been a much better selection as a pass rusher. However, like Brown, Barwin doesn't have the size to put his hand to the turf and play DE. Why Max Unger? Ryan Kalil was already established as an elite Center. Lesean McCoy - at the height of double trouble? DE was a much bigger need than either C or RB.

In other words, delete this.

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7 hours ago, RevJ said:

Thought I'd take my turn. In 2000, we missed on Tom Brady, although we did get guys like Rashard Anderson and Gillis Wilson.  Brady threw for over 350 yards in the Orange Bowl and brought the Wolverines back from a 14 point deficit to beat Alabama.  I watched that game and though that we should get him. How could management miss that?

 

Did you seriously just pull the "we missed on Brady" card? You realize there are 31 teams that missed on Brady? 

You are blaming management for that? You realize the guy who drafted Brady has been fired and now is an assistant? 

What kind of post is this man. Put more effort in. No one knows what a player's career will look like before it starts. See Cadillac Williams. 

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42 minutes ago, Chimera said:

In 2000, we still had Bueurlein and the plan was for Jeff Lewis to take over the reigns and be our franchise QB of the future.

Frank Gore had two ACL tears in college. Would you draft him? Or are you simply playing the hindsight game?

In 2009, we just lost Julius Peppers. Yes, Brown was the absolute worst choice for a DE, and Barwin would have been a much better selection as a pass rusher. However, like Brown, Barwin doesn't have the size to put his hand to the turf and play DE. Why Max Unger? Ryan Kalil was already established as an elite Center. Lesean McCoy - at the height of double trouble? DE was a much bigger need than either C or RB.

In other words, delete this.

Peppers was still on the team in 2009. 

Brown was drafted to decrease peppers negotiating power in long term extension talks. 

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3 hours ago, Chimera said:

Frank Gore had two ACL tears in college. Would you draft him? Or are you simply playing the hindsight game?

I was completely playing the hindsight game.  Wouldn't draft him then, but would now.  I bet 31 other teams would take Kamara with a pick before 67.  Just trying to point out anyone can play the hindsight game at any point in history - my bad for not throwing in a sarcasm font.

We got who we got - so we shouldn't be mixing in fantasy football with the real thing.

 

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16 hours ago, TheCasillas said:

Did you seriously just pull the "we missed on Brady" card? You realize there are 31 teams that missed on Brady? 

You are blaming management for that? You realize the guy who drafted Brady has been fired and now is an assistant? 

What kind of post is this man. Put more effort in. No one knows what a player's career will look like before it starts. See Cadillac Williams. 

Actually 32 teams missed on Brady.  The Patriots passed on him 5 times before taking him in the 6th round.

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12 hours ago, stbugs said:

The worst part about Brown are the two players we actually lost out on and would have taken. The two WRs taken right after the first round slot we traded away were Demaryius Thomas and Dez Bryant. We took LaFell, Edwards and Gettis in the 3rd, 3rd and 6th so we were looking WR. Thomas and Bryant both had mediocre rookie seasons so we likely don’t lose out on Newton either. Imagine Smith, Thomas/Bryant and Olsen. SMH, Everette Brown. 

Brown and Dez were drafted in 2009. Lafell, Edwards and Gettis were drafted in 2010.

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13 hours ago, RevJ said:

I was completely playing the hindsight game.  Wouldn't draft him then, but would now.  I bet 31 other teams would take Kamara with a pick before 67.  Just trying to point out anyone can play the hindsight game at any point in history - my bad for not throwing in a sarcasm font.

We got who we got - so we shouldn't be mixing in fantasy football with the real thing.

 

It did start out like you were being sarcastic, but the whole "I thought I'd take my turn" sounded like you were being serious about it. Sorry if that wasn't the case.

I agree about fantasy. I stopped playing it in 2010 and the game is once again enjoyable. I don't worry about "OMG fug! Cam just threw a pick with 1 second left at halftime. I'm screwed." Now I just think "Hey, we finally tried to do something before the half. Baby steps..."

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17 hours ago, Chimera said:

In 2000, we still had Bueurlein and the plan was for Jeff Lewis to take over the reigns and be our franchise QB of the future.

Frank Gore had two ACL tears in college. Would you draft him? Or are you simply playing the hindsight game?

In 2009, we just lost Julius Peppers. Yes, Brown was the absolute worst choice for a DE, and Barwin would have been a much better selection as a pass rusher. However, like Brown, Barwin doesn't have the size to put his hand to the turf and play DE. Why Max Unger? Ryan Kalil was already established as an elite Center. Lesean McCoy - at the height of double trouble? DE was a much bigger need than either C or RB.

In other words, delete this.

This whooshed right over your head.

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10 hours ago, Chimera said:

Brown and Dez were drafted in 2009. Lafell, Edwards and Gettis were drafted in 2010.

Brown was drafted in 2009, but we used our 2010 first round pick to trade up for him. Dez and Demaryius were both drafted in the 2010 first round and would have been available at our draft slot. We don’t trade up for Edwards if we would have gotten either of those two.

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On 12/5/2017 at 4:13 PM, Chimera said:

In 2000, we still had Bueurlein and the plan was for Jeff Lewis to take over the reigns and be our franchise QB of the future.

Frank Gore had two ACL tears in college. Would you draft him? Or are you simply playing the hindsight game?

In 2009, we just lost Julius Peppers. Yes, Brown was the absolute worst choice for a DE, and Barwin would have been a much better selection as a pass rusher. However, like Brown, Barwin doesn't have the size to put his hand to the turf and play DE. Why Max Unger? Ryan Kalil was already established as an elite Center. Lesean McCoy - at the height of double trouble? DE was a much bigger need than either C or RB.

In other words, delete this.

I was going to say something similar,  but not as in depth. 

You can't simply look at possible draft or free agent acquisitions so simplistically.  There has to be some context in order for the point to be legit.  

You provided excellent context!

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