The difference between Kamara and McCaffery?

[PantherOnTheProwl1523]

2 hours ago, GoobyPls said:

This thread in a nutshell 

its Shula fault

Its the o-lines fault

Its Cam’s fault

 

Throwing everyone under the bus to save Mccaffrey from criticism. When in reality it’s mainly his fault, he’s a niche player who struggles and I mean STRUGGLES to break tackles. He also needs space to make people miss, Kamara makes people miss in a phone booth.

You say why not criticize CMC because he is unable to do this or do that and can't do this. Not all rookies can make the grade first season because in reality some need time but you act like every player that gets drafted has to play at a thigh level right out of college to play at 100% which isn't going to happen. Who cares what those N.O. players can do. CMC is a Panther and instead of condemning him be a real fan of this team and appreciate what we have and can do even if it is not winning many games.

[Montsta]

12 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

It’s more than that... It’s not so much how they are used but what they do once the ball is in their hands... Kamara makes more between the tackles and in the open field.. take that touchdown early in the game for example when I believe it was Shaq that poped him but he still powered into the end zone for example. That isn’t something Christian can do. 

 

McCaffrey actually did that a lot in college. I don’t know why he is dropping on contact now. 

[Proudiddy]

So far in the pros, it has nothing to do with scheme.  Kamara makes yards after contact, plain and simple.  CMC's only chance of success is to make a guy miss in the open field BEFORE contact is made.  If a defender gets their hands on him, 9 out of 10 times it's a wrap.  While Kamara isn't just breaking the tackle of one defender, he's running through and bouncing off 2, 3, or 4 of them on any given play.

Sadly, I don't think there is anything that can be done to "improve" on this facet of CMC's game.  He runs good routes, he has good hands, but what separates the good from the great is their ability to get YAC, and he just hasn't shown the ability to do it.

[Jesse]

2 hours ago, TheCrescent504 said:

No, you'd be fugged less because Kamara is just flat out better than CMC. Accept it.

No? Let’s look at a player who’s been on both teams. Ted Ginn: he has 4 weeks to achieve 10 catches, <100 yards receiving and 1 TD, matching last year’s total. Their offense is not only more efficient, but has a lot more weapons. 

Also, let’s take Ingram for example. He’s done better (much better) than Stew this year, but in no shape or form do I think Ingram is the better overall player. 

[GoobyPls]

2 hours ago, rbsponsel52 said:

You say why not criticize CMC because he is unable to do this or do that and can't do this. Not all rookies can make the grade first season because in reality some need time but you act like every player that gets drafted has to play at a thigh level right out of college to play at 100% which isn't going to happen. Who cares what those N.O. players can do. CMC is a Panther and instead of condemning him be a real fan of this team and appreciate what we have and can do even if it is not winning many games.

Running back is the easiest transition from college to the pros, the chances of Mccaffrey getting a whole lot better are slim.

 

You clicked on this thread that was specifically about Kamara so apparently you care.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, GoobyPls said:

Running back is the easiest transition from college to the pros

lmao.

[MasterAwesome]

1 hour ago, Saca312 said:

lmao.

Ok.....what position is an easier transition than running back? Aside from kicker/punter? Should be a pretty easy question to answer since that was apparently such a crazy notion that it made you laugh your butt off. How about you at least attempt to be constructive when you disagree with someone’s point.

[top dawg]

I wasn't a proponent of McCaffrey at eight, and I didn't really think we'd do it,  until we did it. I just didn't think the value was there. Gettleman, Mr. Talent Evaluator Deluxe, should have determined that McCaffrey was being overvalued at that draft position as well. I thought that Kamara in the second and especially the third was an imminently better value, and it turns out that he was, and may be the better RB in general.  The thing is, CMC is ours right now, and he is what he is, so we need to run plays to his strengths (e.g, catching the ball in open space).  I suspect that he will get better with time. 

[csx]

New Orleans took two players ahead of Kamara too

[Peppers90 NC]

3 hours ago, csx said:

New Orleans took two players ahead of Kamara too

Three

[micnificent28]

15 hours ago, rbsponsel52 said:

You say why not criticize CMC because he is unable to do this or do that and can't do this. Not all rookies can make the grade first season because in reality some need time but you act like every player that gets drafted has to play at a thigh level right out of college to play at 100% which isn't going to happen. Who cares what those N.O. players can do. CMC is a Panther and instead of condemning him be a real fan of this team and appreciate what we have and can do even if it is not winning many games.

This is another excuse for why it’s not McCafferys fault. Running Back isn’t like corner or Wide receiver where you have to adjust to the finner points of the position outside of blocking. It’s more instinctive... you have been doing it since junior high..either you got it or you don’t. I don’t think he going to magically start breaking tackles next year even if he puts on 10 pounds because that isn’t the way he learned to play.

 

System and coach qb aside ... Kamara has that knack for breaking bigger runs because he is more instinctive as a runner and that dog in him to fight through contact. 

[Billyt81]

Life long New Orleans native WhoDat stumbled in here. Oops. I dont like many yalls breakdowns of Kmara/McCafferey.One of yall hit it right saying our offense was playin with water colors and yours playin with crayons or something. No offense to Cam. Hes a dog. He terrifies Saints fans, LSU Tiger fans, many fans. But yall do realize what Drew Brees and Sean Peyton would do with McCafferey right? Reggie Bush set and holds still the NFL rookie RB NFL record for catches with 90 in Brees, Reggie and Sean Peytons first year in the NO and Deuce McCallister still was the man that year. Bringin me to next point. Yall keep sayin. McCafferey has the best hands and is the best route runner of a NFL running back ever. I know hes a better receiver than Kmara but yall ever watched Marshal Faulk or Reggie Bush? Reggie Bush had the best hands probably ever for the Saints and was an elite polished route runner day 1. Actually Danny Abramowicz and Eric Martin had better hands. And Marshal Faulk. Enough said.  Point is McCafferey aint the first RB who could run a fade, post, curl or whatever route just like a WR. In truth a lot of yall did get it right. Before the draft MANY WhoDats were salivating at the thought of a Brees McCafferey duo. Including myself. Were happy with Kmars though. McCafferey and Stewart are great too though. Yall, like the Saints need WRs. As a LSU Tiger fan I always pulled for Russel Shephard but........send him to the Big Easy. Shephard won the LA state championship in the dome and was LAs top recruit that year. Oh and yall dont want Darius Guice or DJ Chark from LSU. WhoDat!

[Pantha-kun]

49 minutes ago, Billyt81 said:

 

I don't think anyone was saying McCaffreys the best pass catching RB of all time. Even in this rookie class Hunt and Kamara have been catching extremely well and even Fournette has been catching more than expected. 

I think its more of, the Panthers have been such a traditional downhill rushing attack for so long fans aren't used to seeing prolific pass catching RBs on OUR team. For almost the entirety of Cams career fans have been begging for him to have a check down option just like 99% of other QBs , for a long while we had a intermediate and deep passing game but had nothing short. For example, McCaffrey already has the Panther record for receptions for ALL panther RBs in the entire teams history (in a single season) and there's still 4 games left. He probably end up with the most receiving yards for a RB  in team history as well. 

[Peppers90 NC]

wow, BillyT signed up just to type out that weirdazzshit?