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Brees’s weapons are always open and make plays after the catch, Cam’s weapons.....,


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I watched Seattle and Phily, both had receivers getting open downfield, all Wentz and Russell had to do is hit a wide open guy downfield,...

cam had one shot of hitting Byrd deep.

if we ran Byrd on some deep routes like that once or twice even per drive, there's going to be some touchdowns, defenses will have to back out of that box.

the first drive when Stewart and Sheppard were getting the tosses and screens we went right down the field. Add in a deep threat in Byrd and we become dangerous. 

Shula just likes to go all Ron and tighten back up to bread and butter, like our 2nd drive we went 3 Stewart up the middle and should have quit after it was 2nd and 6th, could have gone back to what was working.

so do the tosses and screens to Stewart and Sheppard, mccaffrey in the slot and get Byrd downtown. It will also help to get Greg back

 

 

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13 hours ago, NeedSumD said:

ChibCu aren’t you missing a kneel in or chaining yourself to a tree or something. You’re a racist at this point is so over used it has lost it’s sting. I know in your circles going you’re a racist causes a gasp and uncontrollable crying for hours on end.  But on a message board LOL

This one is an 8 year old poster.

I don't even know what he's trying to say here.

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14 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Saints success is rooted in Brees, Payton and the system.

It seems like all of the good/great teams in the past have always had a system. The Cowboys didn't win a ton of Super Bowls under Tom Landry, but from 1966-1985 they made the playoffs almost every year despite turning the roster over regularly.

The "system" worked in SF from the Montana years thru the Grbac era (1981-mid 90's).

Joe Gibb won 3 superbowls with 3 different QB's and starting RB's from 1982-1991) because of "system"

Brady and Belichik have an established "system", even better than what Drew and Sean have in New Orleans.

Mike Shannahan was able to churn out 1,000 yard rushers no matter who was in a lineup because of his "system"

We don't have a system. Our team is reliant on Cam's running ability and the big play. When he's not effective running the ball our offense sputters. That's no way to build an offensive scheme.

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Its not like the Saints have a bunch of top 10 picks or high dollar free agents at their skill positons.  

I'm not saying we couldn't use some upgrades, but our problems are deeper then just who is playing at the WR position.

Hypothetical question, if the two teams were to swap skill position players would their offense really be much worse?  Would our offense really be much better?

I would guess their wouldn't much difference in what we see right now and people would be saying Brees has better weapons.

 

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11 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

Its not like the Saints have a bunch of top 10 picks or high dollar free agents at their skill positons.  

I'm not saying we couldn't use some upgrades, but our problems are deeper then just who is playing at the WR position.

Hypothetical question, if the two teams were to swap skill position players would their offense really be much worse?  Would our offense really be much better?

I would guess their wouldn't much difference in what we see right now and people would be saying Brees has better weapons.

 

Sean Vicodin is also smart enough to use CAP and with Brees it'd be surgery with CMC.

They do have better skill position players than we do but that's because they actually have NFL players at those positions. We have friends of the family on the team and those PS players every-team has they just keep them on the PS and don't expect them to ever play, much less start and we have fans thinking those players are actually going to do something for us.

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On 12/3/2017 at 7:45 PM, Khyber53 said:

WTF is with Mayo being out there so much? Did TD stay up too late partying last night after the Georgia game? 

 

TD was nursing a hamstring injury. They were rotating Mayo in to keep his reps down and not aggravate it.

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20 hours ago, SCO96 said:

It seems like all of the good/great teams in the past have always had a system. The Cowboys didn't win a ton of Super Bowls under Tom Landry, but from 1966-1985 they made the playoffs almost every year despite turning the roster over regularly.

The "system" worked in SF from the Montana years thru the Grbac era (1981-mid 90's).

Joe Gibb won 3 superbowls with 3 different QB's and starting RB's from 1982-1991) because of "system"

Brady and Belichik have an established "system", even better than what Drew and Sean have in New Orleans.

Mike Shannahan was able to churn out 1,000 yard rushers no matter who was in a lineup because of his "system"

We don't have a system. Our team is reliant on Cam's running ability and the big play. When he's not effective running the ball our offense sputters. That's no way to build an offensive scheme.

Gibbs "system" was to design or adapt his team around the what his players could do best, whether it was the traditional power running game of John Riggins, or playing two or even three tight ends to deal with Lawrence Taylor.  I am not really sure it qualifies as a system per say.  But his ability to adapt to changes in personnel and rules is probably why he was one of the best ever. 

 

I would say Belichik is of a similar mode, although having Tom Brady makes adapting a little easier for him than it was for Gibbs. 

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I'm all over the place but bear with me. Stewart is too wishy-washy for my liking and I truly wish after his ankle injury, they didn't put him back in because he became a liability in the run game and pass blocking. Matter of fact, he got stuffed immediately when they put him back in right after the injury and wasn't the same throughout. CAP should have gotten his chance. I'm sorry but they have worse O-lines than ours that produce on the ground better than we do (Cam not included of course, referring to RBs finding open lanes or making poo happen). CMC although decent, has a bad tendency to bust it inside when he's on a roll, running straight into a tackle. Not sure anybody else noticed that. Ryan Kalil should retire and we should just take the loss on Matt Kalil. When I saw him try to take Cam Jordan's head off because he couldn't keep up, I knew the experiment was over. The guy is a dumpster fire. All I can say about the defense is, when McDermott was here, he emphasized form tackling. Not that shouldering poo that let Kamara run and score all over us. He may be good but we made him look great.

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Playcalling and Brees.

 

We have a dynamic QB who does things others can only dream about, but he cannot do the same things as Brees.  Drew will go down as one of the best passers in NFL history...that's saying something.

He and Payton are on the same page, and Drew's body has held up just long enough for him to pretty much master that position.  Had the GM been competent over the last few years, and surrounded Brees with a good defense...we would likely be discussing who was better all time....Brady or Brees.

 

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A lot of the wow plays the Saints are making aren't even requiring a great deal of accuracy. It's mostly just proper utilization of personnel and moving parts and having a QB who knows what he's doing and doesn't force passes. Having a playmaker like Kamara as the centerpiece paired with a coach like Payton that knows how to use him and not use him is the cherry on top.

Sean Payton may be human garbage, but you can't deny that he clearly knows what he's doing offensively and isn't afraid to make changes or adapt unlike our head coach.

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