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Kurt Coleman has been awful this year.


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2 hours ago, Pantherxtreme said:

Coleman has been fine, you don't have one of the top defenses in he league with horrible secondary play.

Worley is really the only concern back there he seems good for atleast 2 penalties a game.  

He hasn't been fine. Big plays have happened around him, just because they were dropped(Julio), or ruled not a catch(ask) doesn't mean he has been good. Most deep passes should have Coleman nearby and if you don't see him he fed up. His ints, tackles, pbu, every stat has be woefully low this year even compared to last year. 

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Josh Norman meant a lot to the defense, from swagger to scheme.  Kurtco and JNo just played well together, simple as that, because Josh did a great job at completely taking guys out of the game physically or mentally for the most part.  

Coleman doesn't have great range as a default but when the field is truncated he can play a very specific role and shine.  The whole defense benefits from having a guy like Josh.

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2 hours ago, mario said:

He's playing for the vet min in LA...

 

1 hour ago, thomas96 said:

He was on a late round rookie contract...

He would've been paid $1.9MM had he stayed in Carolina. Not expensive in and of itself but apparently not what the team feels an inconsistent backup safety is worth.

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Boston’s salary more than doubled - going from $791,000 to $1.9 million - when he qualified for the escalator that was included in the 2011 collective bargaining agreement to award players drafted from rounds 3-7.

The Panthers created nearly $1.8 million in cap space by waiving Boston, a fourth-round pick from North Carolina in 2014.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nfl/carolina-panthers/article148059954.html

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6 hours ago, g_d0t said:

wasn't a mistake. would cost too much for depth.

 

Besides this game, Coleman has been playing fine?  you guys turn on players so fast, holy

I’m not turning on Coleman. Just stating a fact. Letting Tre walk wasn’t a good move. If Kurt goes down, you’ll realize that.

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6 hours ago, Reynman said:

Nah...sometimes people need a boot in the ass to get things going in the right direction (Peppers was another example...remember “taking plays off” narrative).

If it takes being realesed for a player to have a spark, maybe that’s a coaching problem?

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2 hours ago, thefuzz said:

Two words....Bosa and Ingram.

That is why Tre hasn't been exposed like usual.

That’s an poor excuse, willing to bet it’s due to not having a cb like Worley on his side. Don’t have a problem with Coleman, I think he’s suffering from the same thing Boston did last year, inept cb play.

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