Could Devin Funchess Be The WR1 This Franchise Has Been Looking For?

[WarHeel]

1 hour ago, csx said:

10 games. Hess been the top receiver all year 

With Greg out and the quality of the other guys that’s not saying much. KB’s stats were better than his prior to the cut if I’m not mistaken.

[CPantherKing]

It is Kony Ealy syndrome all over again.

Funchess is not a #1. He is not being defensed like KB or a #1 WR. He is not headed to the Pro Bowl.

Funchess was god awful from weeks 6 to 8. He played well in week 9 and had a good game in week 10. The pattern for Funchess has always been 2 good games followed by 3 horrible games. Does anyone even factor in consistency? He has had 3 good games out of 10 this season, and he has not eclipsed 100 yards in a single game.

When Funchess gets doubled consistently and can run off at least 5 good games to 1 bad game, then I will gladly call him the #1 WR.

Funchess in his 3rd season is on par with a Brandon Lafell. He is not Steve Smith or Muhsin Muhammad quality.

[Saca312]

19 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

With Greg out and the quality of the other guys that’s not saying much. KB’s stats were better than his prior to the cut if I’m not mistaken.

Kelvin Benjamin's like those early PGs in the 2000. Pad their own stats but in fact do nothing to better their team and act as a huge clog.

KB doesn't help us win games. He limits our potential as a team. Getting rid of a poor separator, primary INT causer, and poor route-runner is the reason this team is finding success as of late.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

Does anyone even factor in consistency?

I remember you were high on the Funchess acquisition during the draft. As I said originally, this is just looking at his two games when he was given the role as top receiver on the Panthers.

And I did factor in consistency. Check the last section:

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Right now, there’s only a two game sample for Devin Funchess being the Panthers WR1. He needs to remain consistent going forward and display the same traits shown over the past two weeks. Only then will he be in the same conversation as the rest of the NFC South’s top receivers.

But, based on those two games alone, he has what it takes. We'll see what happens going forward.

[CPantherKing]

Just now, Saca312 said:

Kelvin Benjamin's like those early PGs in the 2000. Pad their own stats but in fact do nothing to better their team and act as a huge clog.

KB doesn't help us win games. He limits our potential as a team. Getting rid of a poor separator, primary INT causer, and poor route-runner is the reason this team is finding success as of late.

The reason the Panthers are doing better is because they are running the ball for 200+ yards per game the past 2 weeks.

[CPantherKing]

Just now, Saca312 said:

I remember you were high on the Funchess acquisition during the draft. As I said originally, this is just looking at his two games when he was given the role as top receiver on the Panthers.

And I did factor in consistency. Check the last section:

But, based on those two games alone, he has what it takes. We'll see what happens going forward.

I was high on Funchess in the draft for the same flashes and potential you highlighted. They are flashes though and not consistency. I was not high on giving 3 picks away for him. He will never live up to that value. I saw him as a good #2 WR by his 3rd to 4th season.

I believe Funchess has a long career in the NFL, but not as a #1.

[Saca312]

4 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

The reason the Panthers are doing better is because they are running the ball for 200+ yards per game the past 2 weeks.

That also helps when you get rid of a consistently poor blocker in Kelvin Benjamin. He can't block worth a poo with his size.

Notice they're running a lot more outside runs nowadays with crack tosses and pin pulls. Involves having some of your WRs be half decent as well for these to be successful.

Granted, Miami's probably the worst in the NFL at defending outside runs, but otherwise it's no coincidence the offense has been better because KB is gone. Panthers have gone to a quick strike approach with timing as of late, and the run game with successful blocking helps.

So far, it is working.

[Saca312]

1 minute ago, CPantherKing said:

I was high on Funchess in the draft for the same flashes and potential you highlighted. They are flashes though and not consistency. I was not high on giving 3 picks away for him. He will never live up to that value. I saw him as a good #2 WR by his 3rd to 4th season.

I believe Funchess has a long career in the NFL, but not as a #1.

Fair enough.

I can get the argument Funchess is a WR2 level. I know plenty of others who'd agree.

Myself, I personally seen instances where he looked like he could be a WR1. But, as you said, he needs to remain consistent, and I won't argue against that.

[WarHeel]

40 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Kelvin Benjamin's like those early PGs in the 2000. Pad their own stats but in fact do nothing to better their team and act as a huge clog.

KB doesn't help us win games. He limits our potential as a team. Getting rid of a poor separator, primary INT causer, and poor route-runner is the reason this team is finding success as of late.

Would love to see some 4th quarter stats when we are well behind on the scoreboard to back up that statement. 

 

I’m not arguing the offense hasn’t looked better the last two games but 2 games is a small sample size. I’m not about to chalk it all up to the absence of 1 player who according to some wasn’t doing much to begin with anyway. Let’s see how the rest of this season shakes out. I expect things to improve either way with the return of 88.

[WOW!!]

If we add a WR next off-season it needs to be a vet.. We have a lot of youth at that position and need a vet presence now..

Jarvis Landry, Mike Wallace, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins, Jordan Matthew, Kendal Wright, Paul Richardson, John and Jaron Brown are all FA next off-season..

[Saca312]

50 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

If we add a WR next off-season it needs to be a vet.. We have a lot of youth at that position and need a vet presence now..

Jarvis Landry, Mike Wallace, Allen Robinson, Sammy Watkins, Jordan Matthew, Kendal Wright, Paul Richardson, John and Jaron Brown are all FA next off-season..

Bringing in Sammy Watkins would be amazing. 

Allen Robinson too, but Sammy Watkins + Cam? Oh wee mayne.

[WOW!!]

48 minutes ago, Saca312 said:

Bringing in Sammy Watkins would be amazing. 

Allen Robinson too, but Sammy Watkins + Cam? Oh wee mayne.

I agree with your Funchese take and with a vet or speedster like Watkins and Samuels that would be a nice diverse wr Corp..

Now I actually wish we would have traded KB for Watkins..

[LinvilleGorge]

Just give me an additional proven NFL WR. A speed guy would be nice, but proven NFL speed guys = $$$$$. I'm hoping Samuel can evolve into that deep threat, but we'll see. It'll be cheaper to add a proven possession-type guy. I don't see us spending big money on a FA WR, but I do hope to see us bring in a mid-level guy and cutting Shepard will free up some cash to help with that. Shepard was a mistake.

[csx]

If Watkins keeps underachieving he might be affordable...might.