Work place drug test question

[Paa Langfart]

5 hours ago, Floppin said:

Kemper Sports or the Lord Baltimore Group by chance?

No neither of those.

[t96]

If you want to keep your job, keep off the dope. It's pretty simple.

[Lumps]

No your friend does not have legal grounds to avoid a drug test lol

But the company paying them DOES have legal grounds to know whether they’re employing someone using illegal drugs, and rightfully so. Drug usage is a liability any way you look at it whether you agree with it or not.

[Floppin]

3 hours ago, Lumps said:

No your friend does not have legal grounds to avoid a drug test lol

But the company paying them DOES have legal grounds to know whether they’re employing someone using illegal drugs, and rightfully so. Drug usage is a liability any way you look at it whether you agree with it or not.

Do you mean this as a right to know while on the clock or in general?

[Lumps]

10 hours ago, Floppin said:

Do you mean this as a right to know while on the clock or in general?

While on the clock, but there is no way to distinguish that with any form of drug testing. I also believe companies can hire and fire whoever they want, so at some point they’re going to have to rely on their ability to hire an individual rather than laws like drug testing to ‘guide’ them in finding an appropriate candidate.

But you have to remember a person is associated with the company 24-7 so the company may lose clients if they employee decides to smoke crack and do something stupid or get busted by the police. Or for the simple fact the company has to rehire  people, be down employees etc. even though none of this would be ‘on the clock’. These are liabilities even ones that aren’t obvious on the clock, while working ones. Should the company eat these costs? Or should they demand to test employees for their drug usage? I believe companies should be able to do whatever the hell they want...don’t work for them if you don’t like it.

For the record I think traditional drug testing (urine, saliva) is a joke. The most harmful drugs on this planet stay in your system the shortest amount of time. Quitting crack for three days is not more important than hiring a stoner. Also many important jobs don’t drug screen altogether. I feel I have a right to know if my doctor had a 3  year addiction to coke. 

Implementation of drug screening and employment while very necessary, has never been done correctly, it’s a joke. 

 

[Happy Panther]

As others have said I don't see anything illegal about this. Every company that has a drug testing program had to start it at sometime. As far as signing something, if that is required in his/her state I'm sure it would be a matter of "sign this or you are fired."

Not a lawyer.

[Ja Rhule]

On 11/18/2017 at 5:23 PM, thomas96 said:

If you want to keep your job, keep off the dope. It's pretty simple.

Or work in big corps, they don’t drug test.

[Zaximus]

9 hours ago, ARSEN said:

Or work in big corps, they don’t drug test.

This a lot of times true.    The fact is, most companies realize these tests are worthless.    The only thing that stays in longer than a couple days is weed and, big deal.    It's not worth the money invested to have them done to thousands of employees.     The best tests cost a good bit as well.     I could see a company that is smaller doing it for insurance reasons maybe, but big ones it's not as big of a deal.

Anyway, if they never signed anything, I would guess they are given a "test or fire" choice, depending on which state.    Unless they started work there like 30 years ago I have a hard time believing they didn't agree to tests when signing for the job, as even if a company doesn't do it they want to have the choice if they want.   My company (albeit a very large one) doesn't test but you have to agree to the fact that they can if they want to.

And right to work doesn't mean companies have a 100% all encompassing reason to fire someone.    There are still tons of cases being made against wrongful termination in states that support this.  

[The_Tolbert_Report]

Zaximus is right on the money with this one. The reality is that drug tests might as well just be marijuana tests since all other drugs are undectable in urine after three days. Even marijuana can be undetected if the test is cheap enough, just pound water for three days straight and take 4x the B12 vitamins to give your urine color so it doesn't look completely clear

However....there is the possibility of a hair test which is equally expensive as it is draconic. It tests all drugs up to 6 months. The only way to pass one of these is to damage your hair with vinegar, sun exposure, and some head shop shampoo. 

[Paa Langfart]

Pretty much was confirmed today that everyone will be tested next week.  Completely dumb move for servers and kitchen staff - I see no reason why pot use off the job should make someone ineligible for continued employment.  This will be one of the dumbest moves this company could make.  They already have a hell of a time finding decent workers and my friend is tops in her field - never missed a day in over 10 years with this company.  Ridiculous

[Zaximus]

13 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

Pretty much was confirmed today that everyone will be tested next week.  Completely dumb move for servers and kitchen staff - I see no reason why pot use off the job should make someone ineligible for continued employment.  This will be one of the dumbest moves this company could make.  They already have a hell of a time finding decent workers and my friend is tops in her field - never missed a day in over 10 years with this company.  Ridiculous

If you look deeply, this is probably a way to weed out the staff and save face at the same time.    Typical thing companies do now to cut cost.   

[thefuzz]

17 hours ago, Paa Langfart said:

Pretty much was confirmed today that everyone will be tested next week.  Completely dumb move for servers and kitchen staff - I see no reason why pot use off the job should make someone ineligible for continued employment.  This will be one of the dumbest moves this company could make.  They already have a hell of a time finding decent workers and my friend is tops in her field - never missed a day in over 10 years with this company.  Ridiculous

Company name?