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Kelvin Benjamin We Hardly Knew Ya

jfra78

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13 minutes ago, JARROD said:

So Funchess catches that ball at Seattle in between Sherman and their star safety(having a brain freeze over his name, best safety in football)?

funchess played awesome tonight, but until he has back to back 1000 yard seasons and is on his way to a 3rd with 20+ touchdowns you can't say that,..

Jesus the hate after a good team player goes.  With friends like these,...

He didn't have back to back 1,000 yard seasons though. He was close but didn't get it.

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Cam is almost always throwing to a spot. He improvises a lot in the running game, but in the passing game he is actually pretty mechanical. Waiting on a guy to get separation is not Cam's game. Cam is not particularly good at throwing fades or types of passes that require go-get-em type routes because he puts so much on the ball.

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8 minutes ago, Professor Chaos said:

Lol you people have been pointing to that ONE PLAY for the last 3 years. 

well if we can just point to one play, then i point to the play KB got stripped by Marcus Peters vs Cheifs last year that sealed the game off for their win. 

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It is laughable to trash a GM for a bad draft in 2011 when he landed an NFL MVP QB. Do you even realize how many teams would give up their entire draft if they knew they could land a league MVP QB?

A GM could trade all his picks for the #1 pick in the draft or trade down for 12 total picks in the draft. If they managed to get a single league MVP out of that same draft every year, they would be considered a genius.

Some people here could be happy with a 5 pick draft landing Badberry and Whiffley every year and call that GM GOD. The GM who lands a league MVP QB in a single draft is considered garbage.

I could even spot you a draft that lands you a good DT and a pro bowl DT. The draft that lands a single MVP NFL QB is worth a whole lot more than that 2 DT draft.

So, please, someone tell me the value of the 2011 draft is not greater than the 2013 draft. Tell me you would take Star and KK over Cam Newton. Do it!!!!

If you were to exclude the single best draft pick from every one of Gettleman's 5 pick drafts, then you would have a god awful bunch of drafts in front of you. 

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6 hours ago, Rags said:

And we've played down to the level of much worse teams and defenses than the dolphins this year.

It's not the fact that it was a blow out but the fact that we looked fuging functional.

I agree but my point is it is just one game. Panthers looked good and now folks are praising the Benjamin move and a couple weeks ago this place was in full meltdown. I even saw some Hurney compliments and didn’t everyone get the memo that we don’t like Hurney and compliments are not allowed...ha  

 

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7 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Yes, you've successfully connected dots. congrats

but otah was out of the league because he just decided to quit playing football. like, you could argue that's a draft process problem, but he was the best young RT in the league when he was out there. He could clearly play.

Dude just decided he didn't want to. I'm not sure how you put that on Hurney

Because he traded the following years 1st round pick to trade up for someone that played for less than 2 seasons. Then in the following season, when we had already lost our first round pick, when we needed some help, we traded again.  If the first trade had never happened, would the second one have happened?  So we reached for Brown in 209 because of the mistake from the previous year.  Then there are the rumors he tried to trade up for Clausen in 2010 and he did trade up for Armanti.  I dont know about you but 3 straight years of trading up for players that play less than 2 seasons is pretty bad. 

 

But like I said before, these mistakes led to the 1-15 season which led to Cam so it worked out indirectly.  There was no guarantees that by making drafting mistakes that 3 years later we would get our franchise QB.  Look at the Browns continuously making mistakes with no payout. Hurney shouldn't be our GM, or any teams GM except one of our rivals so he can screw up their franchise for 5 years.

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7 minutes ago, smash_n_dash said:

Because he traded the following years 1st round pick to trade up for someone that played for less than 2 seasons. Then in the following season, when we had already lost our first round pick, when we needed some help, we traded again.  If the first trade had never happened, would the second one have happened?  So we reached for Brown in 209 because of the mistake from the previous year.  Then there are the rumors he tried to trade up for Clausen in 2010 and he did trade up for Armanti.  I dont know about you but 3 straight years of trading up for players that play less than 2 seasons is pretty bad. 

 

Otah and Brown are two separate decisions. Otah didn't come and put a gun to Hurney's head. Trading a first to move back up cost them in 2009 sure, but locking up their offensive line didn't make them move up for everette brown. You don't understand what you're talking about. 

Otah could clearly play, then he quit. The Panthers don't win the south in 2008 without him. 

It only looks so bad because he decided to fake injuries and hang out at massage envy (true story)

 

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